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Title: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: broseph on April 22 2021 12:48:06 AM MDT
So last week I took my Glock 20 and my SW MP2.0 9mm to the range and shot my Glock 20 at 8 yards and 10 yards. My 10 yards went like this (the headshot was intentional as the RSO showed me a grip thing and then said to aim for the head). I still wonder how locked my right arm should be - I'm a right. How can I get to the point of sticking to the center?
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Kenk on April 22 2021 12:54:42 AM MDT
Lots of practice is your best bet, aim dead on, and adjust from there
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Graybeard on April 22 2021 05:15:26 AM MDT
Looks like you're anticipating the shot and letting the front sight dip. Also looks like too much finger on the trigger and you're pulling it to the right.

Try dry firing it at a small target at home and watch what happens to the front sight as the trigger breaks. If it's moving, you're missing. Adjust your grip and amount of finger on the trigger accordingly.

Then head back to the range and try it with live ammo.
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: The_Shadow on April 22 2021 08:12:29 AM MDT
0xfedbeef, Welcome to the forum...This might help out some as you work for better shot placement

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Best regards and enjoy!
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: broseph on April 22 2021 09:14:53 AM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on April 22 2021 08:12:29 AM MDT
0xfedbeef, Welcome to the forum...This might help out some as you work for better shot placement

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Best regards and enjoy!

this is flipping amazing! if this forum had a 'thanks' button I'd hit it!
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Kenk on April 22 2021 10:25:48 AM MDT
You just hit it, a lot of experienced folks here 😊
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Caboose on April 24 2021 03:08:18 PM MDT
Regarding your question of how locked your arms should be, take a look at somebody like Jerry Miculek on youtube. Even with heavy recoiling handguns, the gun doesn't flip a lot because he's hanging on tight with wrists and elbows locked. I think the old 60/40 left/right grip ratio for a right handed shooter makes sense. But more important than any of that is not being rough on the trigger, which i still fight with after 10s of thousands of rounds.
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Kenk on April 24 2021 03:28:17 PM MDT
Great point, This Jerry Miculek guy is amazing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ChSazF41q-s
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Caboose on April 24 2021 03:58:25 PM MDT
Yea, Jerry knows a thing or two. Ox, I forgot to mention, that's good shooting for starting out, and those hits will tighten up fast with practice. Asking a friend to hide a snap cap in your mag can be quite revealing if you keep your eye on the front sight.
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: broseph on April 25 2021 09:02:02 PM MDT
Quote from: Caboose on April 24 2021 03:58:25 PM MDT
Yea, Jerry knows a thing or two. Ox, I forgot to mention, that's good shooting for starting out, and those hits will tighten up fast with practice. Asking a friend to hide a snap cap in your mag can be quite revealing if you keep your eye on the front sight.

thanks! I bought my first about the start of June last year, but didn't go to the range on a consistent basis until early January this year; I go every 2 weeks-ish. The vid looks very interesting; I kinda want a blue gun. If I did put a snap cap in my map at the range, would I risk damaging my gun or snap cap (given how hot it must get when being used)?
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: forty5 on April 25 2021 09:16:42 PM MDT
Practice,practice,practice makes for great shooting in the future.
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Kenk on April 26 2021 08:37:30 AM MDT
For sure
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: Caboose on April 29 2021 02:04:48 PM MDT
Nope, the snapcap and gun will be fine, though I wouldn't let a plastic one bake in a chamber after a few mag dumps. A lot of us also use dummy rounds we load with no powder or primer.
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: broseph on May 30 2021 01:47:58 PM MDT
so I've been shooting a lot better lately, but I usually miss my first shot. Why is that and how can I fix this?
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: fltbed on May 31 2021 11:49:33 AM MDT
Quote from: 0xfedbeef on May 30 2021 01:47:58 PM MDT
so I've been shooting a lot better lately, but I usually miss my first shot. Why is that and how can I fix this?

I would recommend dry fire practice.  Work on the fundamentals and I can't stress this enough, go S...L...O...W!  (speed will come naturally)

Start with your stance.  Just like a house, you have to have a good foundation.

Next is your grip.  A proper grip is essential for recoil control and flows into the next step...

Sight picture.  Focusing on the front sight and it's alignment with the rear sear sight and the target. 

Breath control.  Some recommend holding your breath to fire the shot.  I prefer to breathe normally and slowly press the trigger on the exhale.

Trigger press.  Being able to break the shot without disturbing the sight alignment.  There are many "hacks" to help with this from laser gadgets to my personal favorite, the coin on the barrel technique. and this flows into the last step.

Follow through.  Just like a golf swing, keeping it all together through the recoil and re-acquiring the sight picture.

Hope this helps.

Jeff
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: slam45 on May 31 2021 12:33:20 PM MDT
first thing i do when i get a glock is replace the factory sights...always a big improvement.... on my g20 i use Dawson adjustable with a fiber optic front ( my edc g30 has Heinie Straight 8 night sights)... learn to reload, get some ammo that runs right around 950 to 1000f/s with 180 to 200gr  bullets and work on it... when i was shooting steel matches regularly i would shoot 12 gauge shotgun hulls at 35 feet with my G30 to build confidence with my sight acquisition and follow through... you can get there just keep working... move on to heavy 10mm loads when you can call your shots and shoot bullet holes at 10yd...
Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: gnappi on June 22 2021 08:41:49 PM MDT
Your subject "Glock 20 second range outing" sounds like you spent 20 seconds before a catastrophic issue.

"My second outing with the Glock 20" sounds better-er :-)

Sorry, I was a technical writer in R&D at a large PC company it's in my blood!

Title: Re: Glock 20 second range outing
Post by: sqlbullet on June 23 2021 08:37:42 AM MDT
I was raised in marketing and I love the title.  It grabs attention!