10mm LOAD DATA Rebuilding this page that was lost...
10MM SAAMI SPECS
(https://i.postimg.cc/tg7jVLyp/10mm-SAAMI-Spec.jpg)
Powder Burn Rate Chart
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6QP5KkN/Burn-Rate.jpg)
Alliant Data
(https://i.postimg.cc/Dzqjdr70/Alliant-Datapg44-zpsffcd250d.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCnssXdR/Alliant-Be8610mm-zps99575ebc.jpg)
SPEER Supplement (before Speer #12 was published)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6ffPYCm/Speer10mm-Supplment-Data-1.jpg)
SPEER #12
(https://i.postimg.cc/HsV6PDTf/Speer1210mm1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KvwJ6qz4/Speer1210mm2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvKj4shw/Speer1210mm3.jpg)
SPEER #15
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5GJ405K/SPEER15-155-sized.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTyynf6K/SPEER15-165-sized.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9fyCMVDP/SPEER15-180-sized.jpg)
SPEER 200 Grain Gold Dot Data
(https://i.postimg.cc/vHDyn51Z/Speer-200-grain-Load-Data.jpg)
ACCURATE ARMS POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNBBzY6y/Accurate-Arms10mm121-zps532817c3.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nh9wM85v/Accurate-Arms10mm122-zpsaeb8eff2.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0NgXwWRh/Accurate-Arms10mm123-zps4f54ecb4.jpg)
ADI POWDERS
(https://i.postimg.cc/15nKrGHS/ADI-Data-zps1chexppa.jpg)
HODGDON 1997 #26 manual
(https://i.postimg.cc/FH1ms1dx/Hodgdon-1997-No-26.jpg)
HODGDON POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqhjRW6S/10mm-Loads-zps44eadad0.png)
HODGDON CFE PISTOL
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdy5b9Pb/Screen-Shot008-zps-CF3c424928.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0j6M5KTY/Hodgdon-10mm-Data.png)
HODGDON UNEQUAL POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/vBYzrCP2/10mm-Hodgdon-UNEQUAL-zps2lsflxld.jpg)
IMR POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1HCYQJ7/IMR-10mm-Data-zpsptzdoxci.jpg)
WARNING (this is older IMR DATA and the 800X load was way too hot)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fLSxfZcK/IMRData.jpg)
NOSLER DATA
(https://i.postimg.cc/WpGFKLSk/10mm-Auto-135gr.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/m2TzWX66/10mm-Auto-150gr.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nfbys63G/10mm-Auto-180gr.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rsNDtxzJ/10mm-Auto-200gr.jpg)
NORMA POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/W357XSCN/Norma10mmloaddata-zpsa7644b55.jpg)
LEE DATA
(https://i.postimg.cc/7YDxMqqR/LEE-data.jpg)
LEHIGH DATA
(https://i.postimg.cc/mryJJrcn/Lehigh-100-grain.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/85k9SVMz/Lehigh-115-grain.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZCDfYPd/Lehigh-140-Control-Fracturing.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mktnPNdx/Lehigh-140-Penetrator.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HWhKfRxT/Lehigh-150-graiin.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKvgZHBp/Lehigh-185-Xtreme-Penetrator.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGzpK6Z2/Lehigh-190-WFN.jpg)
LOVEX POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/wvP1Xwj9/Lovex-DATA.jpg)
LYMAN DATA
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyCbbsgq/LYMAN50-A.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/63d3DnVX/LYMAN50-B.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCr8xtz5/LYMAN50-10-cast.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rmDyfxxC/Lyman-401638-10mm48th-Edition.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRKhmh3Z/175-lyman-data.jpg)
VECTAN POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqrmyQ1m/Vectan-data-40-Samp-W-10mm-zpsfhftqq7c.jpg)
WINCHESTER POWDER
(https://i.postimg.cc/2jXwWcnT/Winchester10mmdata1-zpsc7e199e5.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGZvdG7L/Winchester10mmdata2-zpsaba9637f.jpg)
WESTERN POWDER (now owned by Hodgdon)
RAMSHOT
(https://i.postimg.cc/4ynQMVRz/Ram-Shot-Data-zps34b250c4.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FNWgL39/Western-Powder-8.png)
BARNES BULLET DATA
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv2wn9yd/barnes10mm-Autoloads-zps8d484255.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/2y50DghL/barnes10mm155grdata-zps1b425a83.jpg)
10mm MAGNUM DATA
(https://i.postimg.cc/X7qLSNx4/10mm-MAgnum-pg1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L4NDbgtx/10mm-MAgnum-pg2.jpg)
CAUTION USING HORNADY #6 DATA They posted AA#9 powder weight as Accurate Arms #7
(https://i.postimg.cc/bvZdNjmr/Hornady-6th-10mm-155-pg-791.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CK95R62N/Hornady-6th-10mm-180-200-pg-792-793.jpg)
Compare to the data in Hornady #8
(https://i.postimg.cc/MH5zms9g/Hornady-8th-10mm-155gr-pg-961.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wxQxzv9F/Hornady-8th-10mm-180-200-pg-963-962.jpg)
Thanks Wade!
Excellent, thank you!
Thanks much! All the info in one place is great...
Outstanding and excellent info! Thank you so much! 8)
I wonder where CFE Pistol falls on that burn rate chart.
~K
It falls between AutoComp and Silhouette
lots of useful new (to me) data there! thanks! 8)
Thank you for taking the time to post all of this data
I have just prepped a pile of 10mm cases and about ready to reload with 180 gr jacketed flat points over 10gr blue dot. Thank you!!
Quote from: cphills on February 10 2022 10:47:49 PM MST
I have just prepped a pile of 10mm cases and about ready to reload with 180 gr jacketed flat points over 10gr blue dot. Thank you!!
10 grains will work but 10.4 grains will burn cleaner and is very accurate!
Absolutely, 10.4gr BD under a 180 XTP or HAP is amazingly accurate.
Here is the new Hornady 11;
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYVf2n2L/HORNADY-11-155gr.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/g24p8dZG/HORNADY-11-180gr.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JzRmsttT/HORNADY-11-200gr.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Nice, Thank You!
Here is data from the new Lyman #51;
Added BE-86, CFE Pistol, and AutoComp.
Interesting that they don't include AA #9 with the heavies...
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvPg3DR8/Lyman-51c.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1yPt1qy)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PxGM5JkS/Lyman-51a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PL4D6tJD)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pL6Z3kcb/Lyman-51b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DyZ7PjJ)
RDub01, Thank you for the added data and glad to see some pressure values with those also.
Hornady data is all I use for 10mm. The rest are watered down, spicy 40S&W loads.
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Over the last few weeks I have compiled all the data in this thread into a spreadsheet, along with some newer data sourced from the interwebs. I wanted it in one place so I could do some data analysis on the information, and then put up a WIKI page with access to the raw data as well as various analysis. I started the analysis the last couple of days and thought I might share a preview.
If you want a general purpose 10mm powder with lots of data, AA#7 is tops with a total of 73 loads across 17 bullet weights. Next is AA#5 with 64 loads over 15 bullet weights, then Unique with 55 loads over 12 bullet weights. The top 10:
| |______Powder_____ | |___Loads___ | |___Weights___| |
| AA7 | 73 | 17 |
| AA5 | 64 | 15 |
| Unique | 55 | 12 |
| Blue Dot | 49 | 11 |
| W231 | 49 | 11 |
| AA9 | 47 | 14 |
| Power Pistol | 45 | 12 |
| HS6 | 43 | 10 |
| 800X | 38 | 9 |
| Silhouette | 27 | 11 |
| N340 | 25 | 6 |
Note that 800X is no longer available, so I included the 11th spot as well. Also, rumor is that Silhouette is the same as WAP which might give it a bit higher ranking (or not if all the WAP data is already duplicated as Silhouette).
I ranked each load by speed in a given bullet weight. Then I checked counts of powder that were consistently in the top 3 spots. No surprise really that AA#9 was in the top 3 for speed over 13 bullet weights. AA#7 was second with 11 top three spots. Blue Dot, Power Pistol and Silhouetted (WAP) tied for third, each with 4 top three spots.
Staying on the speed demon train, the top performing powder by bullet weight:
| |___Bullet Weight___ | |___Powder_____ | |___Max Velocity___| |
| 100 | 800X | 1,665 |
| 100 | AA7 | 1,650 |
| 115 | AA7 | 1,540 |
| 125 | Power Pistol | 1,520 |
| 135 | Silhouette | 1,575 |
| 140 | Power Pistol | 1,391 |
| 145 | AA9 | 1,422 |
| 155 | Blue Dot | 1,450 |
| 165 | BE-86 | 1,344 |
| 170 | AA9 | 1,340 |
| 175 | BE-86 | 1,301 |
| 180 | Blue Dot | 1,295 |
| 185 | AA9 | 1,248 |
| 190 | AA9 | 1,267 |
| 195 | AA9 | 1,193 |
| 200 | SP2 | 1,232 |
| 205 | AA9 | 1,157 |
I put 100 grain in twice as 800X is no longer available.
I also, just for fun, ran a pivot on pressure by data source. Gives a peak into the risk profiles they applied to the ballistics testing. This view of the data makes it clear why Accurate powders top the velocity charts so often - they publish data that is closer to max pressure:
| |___Source_____________ | |___AVG Max Pressure_____ | |___SafetyMargin_____ | |___MAX Pressure___| |
| Accurate Arms | 35,208 | 6% | 37,500 |
| Western Powders 8.0 | 35,206 | 6% | 37,500 |
| ADI Powders | 35,100 | 6% | 36,900 |
| Hodgdon (Web V1) | 34,865 | 7% | 36,900 |
| Alliant Print | 34,691 | 7% | 36,000 |
| Shooter World Online | 34,635 | 8% | 37,415 |
| Hodgdon #26 | 33,981 | 9% | 36,900 |
| Winchester | 33,938 | 9% | 35,700 |
| IMR | 33,829 | 10% | 35,800 |
| Western Powders | 33,729 | 10% | 35,700 |
| Lovex | 33,250 | 11% | 33,600 |
| Lyman #51 | 31,344 | 16% | 37,500 |
| Lyman #50 | 29,149 | 22% | 37,500 |
| Lyman Cast Bullet 4th | 28,800 | 23% | 29,900 |
| Lyman | 28,772 | 23% | 30,000 |
If I exclude the cast bullet handbook data, which is generally not loaded to max pressures, the average safety margin across all publishers comes in at 10%, not weighted by number of loads. Lyman in general is pretty risk averse - If you removed them the average is 8% safety margin.
For those that frequently opine that data is driven by attorneys, please remember that a 20° F temperature increase in the ammunition works out to an average of a 5% increase in pressure. Considering that variable in conjunction with factors like bullet seating depth, set back, primer variations, case capacity differences and manufaturing tolerances in firearm chambers and an 8% margin starts to seem prudent.
I will update this thread again with a link once I complete the Wiki page.
Nice computation of things across powders and bullet weights.
My concerns are with Accurate #9 powder. Over the years there have been several variations of the formulations.
My first canister of AA#9 was the microbead which was said to be WC820
(https://i.postimg.cc/j5mT9NjC/Accurate-Arms-9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLTRPjHG)
Later they had mixture of WC820 80% and WC350 10%
(https://i.postimg.cc/yNwy59Rc/Accurate-No-9-0836.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDwZqdX1)
Next was WC820 80% and Accurate #7 20%
(https://i.postimg.cc/wjgP4Kzg/Accurate-No-9-New-Blend.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RNpXqDqD)
This is the newest formulation 100% flattened ball which we see today as a total reformulation.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d115PvNc/Accurate-9-Western-Powder-0000387.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7b2GMK5)
This newest formula of Accurate #9 seems to be the best with the homogeneous formulation of all of the older ones that were blended mixes...
AA#9 is a great example of delta over time. 800X also had this - the flakes were the same size but the load data changed....Did the formulation change or was the older data just "hot".
I am chasing down dates for the data specifically so I can track changes by publisher over time.
Nice work up. I would like to see it in a printable version.
Once I complete the WIKI page it will include a downloadable file.
Having a downloadable file at wiki would be great.
IF
someone didn't come along later and delete it.
That's the bad thing with wikipedia. Anyone that creates an account there can add or delete at will.
I do believe that there is a way that the administrators there can lock pages. or certain parts of pages to prevent editing. But, I don't know what that process involves.
Not Wikipedia...Our wiki that I admin ;D
Ok, sorry. I thought you were referring to something else.