***This is not load data - Use at your own risk ***
Starline 38 Auto-Comp brass, S&B Small Rifle Primers, Fusion Freedom Gold 1911 chambered 38 Super.
38 Super Auto +P Loads
Powder | Bullet | Weight | COAL | Charge | Exp Velocity | Exp Energy | GRT Pressure | GRT Velocity | Actual Velocity | Actual Energy |
------------------------ | ------------------------- | ------------------- | ----------------- | ------------------ | -------------------- | ---------------- | ------------------ | ------------------ | ------------------- | ------------------- |
AA7 | Speer HP | 90 | 1.175" | 10.5 | 1440 | 414 | 20386 | 1362 | 1511.4 | 456 |
AA7 | Speer HP | 90 | 1.175" | 11.5 | 1717 | 589 | 26626 | 1504 | 1606.2 | 515 |
Silhouette | Federal HST | 124 | 1.275" | 6.5 | 1408 | 546 | 28240 | 1228 | 1147.6 | 363 |
Silhouette | Federal HST | 124 | 1.275" | 7.5 | 1529 | 644 | 38485 | 1360 | 1301.2 | 466 |
AA7 | Federal HST | 124 | 1.275" | 10.5 | 1450 | 579 | 36312 | 1428 | 1420.4 | 555 |
AA7 | Federal HST | 124 | 1.275" | 10.5 | 1450 | 579 | 36312 | 1428 | 1417.8 | 553 |
AA7 | Federal HST | 124 | 1.275" | 10.8 | 1500 | 619 | 39675 | 1470 | 1470.8 | 596 |
9X23 Level Loads
Powder | Bullet | Weight | COAL | Charge | Exp Velocity | Exp Energy | GRT Pressure | GRT Velocity | Actual Velocity | Actual Energy |
------------------------ | ------------------------- | ------------------- | ----------------- | ------------------ | -------------------- | ---------------- | ------------------ | ------------------ | ------------------- | ------------------- |
Silhouette | NOE 360-128 | 130 | 1.145" | 6.5 | 1400 | 566 | 39640 | 1277 | 1262.6 | 460 |
Silhouette | NOE 360-128 | 130 | 1.145" | 7 | 1475 | 628 | 48086 | 1353 | 1323 | 505 |
Each row is a five shot test. GRT data was added after I shot these not before. I have had them loaded for several weeks.
You may notice that there are only nine rows and wonder why I loaded only 45 shots. I loaded 50, but redacted the 152 grain test. I neglected taking my seating depth into account with those loads. The source data was for a 147 grain XTP seated to a COAL of 1.260. My load was seated 1.165.
GRT says my pressure was nearly 70K PSI. The case heads were expanded an additional 0.001", no buldges. I had two pierced (small rifle) primers which was my only pressure sign. I think this illustrates very well the risks of using "pressure signs" to determine safe pressure. They are really subtle until they aren't. Velocity was 1300 fps for a 152 grain SWC - Pretty solid for a 5" 1911. The shots were not remarkable either.
I am really enjoying the fast nines. I plan to push the Federal HST's further into the 9X23 territory next with Silhouette and AA7.
The 6" 9mm conversion barrel I have for my Glock 20SF might be better off chambered for 38 SUPER.
Back when I started loading the 9x25 Dillon I picked up the ZERO 0.356" 121 grain JHP from ROSE Dist. as they were originally for the 38 SUPER. They are just a copper cup/lead core design.
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This one was from the S&W1006 5" BBL in the 4th jug of water.
Power Pistol 10.2 gr CCI 350 Velocity 1592-1620 fps
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What magazines do you use for 9mm in a Glock 20? I have been contemplating a 38 Super Glock, but wasn't sure what I would do for mags. Do standard Glock 20 mags work?
The 9mm cartridges fit the standard G-20 mags OK! It sometimes doesn't feed reliably more because the recoil rod and spring (if I recall was 9lbs maybe 11lbs) kit for the 9mm conversion.
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