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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: 4949shooter on August 18 2013 11:58:57 AM MDT

Title: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: 4949shooter on August 18 2013 11:58:57 AM MDT
On a whim I purchased 100 rounds of Underwood 165 grain total metal jacket. I also picked up a 22 pound recoil spring assembly for my Glock 20 (SF).

This ammo ran fine through my Glock. My son and I alternated mags. We both agreed the ammo felt powerful but was tamed by the Glock platform and the 22 pound weight of the RSA. The only issue I experienced was the slide locking back on one occasion with one round left in the mag, but I don't attribute this to the ammo.

My son and I then fired some hot .45 ACP ammo through my Colt Combat Commander. We agreed the Colt was a bit more punishing to shoot, but we also agreed if the UW ammo had been fired through the Colt the recoil would have been more severe, comparatively speaking.

So...I gotta give credit where it's due. Good job Underwood.

This is a recent purchase, so I am assuming the 165 grain TMJ is still loaded to 1400 fps. It certainly felt like it may have been.
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: Intercooler on August 18 2013 12:45:37 PM MDT
Good to hear! Still 1400 FPS last time I checked a couple of weeks ago. Have you tried PBR's ammo yet? I'm just waiting for the 135 and 155's to be released and I will test them.
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: 4949shooter on August 18 2013 02:08:54 PM MDT
Not yet on the PBR. That's a good thought, and when the cash flow once again permits I will be interested in trying out their 200 grain XTP load.
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: pacapcop on August 18 2013 02:40:35 PM MDT
4949 I am just curious, is what Gen is the Glock. Like you mentioned it simply could of been a mag issue. I bounce around on spring's. If I am shooting 135,155 Underwoods I use the 22lb. 165's,180's I use the 20lb or even the stock. Outside the stock setup I went with a Wolff steel guide rod and various springs. Seems like a winner, at least for me. Got to love how the Glock soaks it up. I love my 1006, but in terms of recoil, Glock wins hands down.
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: Intercooler on August 18 2013 03:19:20 PM MDT
Maybe I will have to get me a Glock. Wait... have they changed that grip yet  :-X
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: pacapcop on August 18 2013 07:33:24 PM MDT
Glock is a no none sense combat pistol. Regardless of grip interpretation it is a proven combat pistol. It grew on me and I can tell you at least with the 10mm cartridge, it's well worthy. But it all depends on what type of range shooting one is doing. If your just punching paper, sure, a Witness or Smith or Fushion is fine. If one is training in terms of qualification weather LEO or Civilian, Glock wins in 10mm. It is a combat pistol. Now, If only Sig could make one.
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: 4949shooter on August 18 2013 07:48:00 PM MDT
Quote from: pacapcop on August 18 2013 02:40:35 PM MDT
4949 I am just curious, is what Gen is the Glock. Like you mentioned it simply could of been a mag issue. I bounce around on spring's. If I am shooting 135,155 Underwoods I use the 22lb. 165's,180's I use the 20lb or even the stock. Outside the stock setup I went with a Wolff steel guide rod and various springs. Seems like a winner, at least for me. Got to love how the Glock soaks it up. I love my 1006, but in terms of recoil, Glock wins hands down.

Pacap, it is a gen 3. I have a 20 pound RSA, but it didn't work with some Underwood 180 tmj I had put through it. The 20 pound spring was good with Hornady mid range 180 though, and even functioned with the weak PPU. I got the 22 pound spring because I wanted to try it with the full power stuff to see if it would do better than the 20 pound RSA. I don't know, I am starting to wonder if maybe I didn't get a bad batch of 180 grain UW. The 165 was great though. I will try out some different loads with the springs in the future.

Edit: Oh.... IC, have you fired a Glock in 10mm yet?
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: Intercooler on August 18 2013 08:15:29 PM MDT
  Never have. Nobody around here or that visits the range has one. Soon I will go to the indoor range and rent one for $10 and see. I sold my Match and the Razorback will be gone by the end of the week. The Gen4 issues are enough to make me worry before even testing it. I don't think I could give it a real test because they require you to shoot their ammo (Remington 10mm).
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: The_Shadow on August 18 2013 09:26:19 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on August 18 2013 03:19:20 PM MDT
Maybe I will have to get me a Glock. Wait... have they changed that grip yet  :-X
The Glock 20 SF and Glock 29SF (SF= Short Frame) this yield a .3mm shorter reach to the trigger.
The Glock 20 and Glock 29 gen 4 guns have changeable grip panels on the rear back strap, some are even being made with beaver tails.  They did also change the recoil system as well.

So to answer your question?  Yes! :o  They did change the Grip! ::)
Different back straps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOVrBrmgYO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOVrBrmgYO0)
Beaver Tail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkMuQV1csE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkMuQV1csE)
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: 4949shooter on August 19 2013 01:59:15 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on August 18 2013 08:15:29 PM MDT
  Never have. Nobody around here or that visits the range has one. Soon I will go to the indoor range and rent one for $10 and see. I sold my Match and the Razorback will be gone by the end of the week. The Gen4 issues are enough to make me worry before even testing it. I don't think I could give it a real test because they require you to shoot their ammo (Remington 10mm).

You might like  Gen 3 SF.
Title: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: Osageid on August 19 2013 04:19:31 PM MDT
Quote from: 4949shooter on August 19 2013 01:59:15 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on August 18 2013 08:15:29 PM MDT
  Never have. Nobody around here or that visits the range has one. Soon I will go to the indoor range and rent one for $10 and see. I sold my Match and the Razorback will be gone by the end of the week. The Gen4 issues are enough to make me worry before even testing it. I don't think I could give it a real test because they require you to shoot their ammo (Remington 10mm).

You might like  Gen 3 SF.

I know I enjoy my gen3 SF!
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: Chicho on August 19 2013 05:59:38 PM MDT
Love my 20 and 29... Both Gen 3 SF. They just plain work and are plenty accurate. Being able to swap barrels/calibers quickly and affordably is huge as well
Title: Re: Have To Give Credit Where It's Due
Post by: pacapcop on August 19 2013 07:01:19 PM MDT
Good to hear that Chicho.