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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm Ammo pull-downs => Topic started by: The_Shadow on December 04 2013 09:21:57 PM MST

Title: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on December 04 2013 09:21:57 PM MST
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Crossfire  Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide)
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1700 fps
Muzzle Energy: 802 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass (Black Oxide)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6350"/Dia. 0.4000": 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide)
Actual weigh 120.8 grains  Crimp Diameter 0.3915"
HP depth  HP 0.3380" / HP dia. 0.0950" / mouth 0.2200"
C.O.A.L.: 1.2470"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.4215" Crimp Diameter 0.4210" (tight) Length 0.9880"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: RamShot Silhouette  11.8 grains

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Title: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on December 05 2013 03:48:03 AM MST
  Where is Yondering or one of the other handloaders? I would love to see someone playing around with the Ramshot so we can compare.
Title: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: sqlbullet on December 05 2013 08:03:08 AM MST
The load data for silhouette leaves velocity lacking about 200 fps when you hit a max load. It would be ok for mid-range loads, but not if you really want to maximize performance.
Title: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on December 05 2013 09:13:48 AM MST
The two I have tested are close to the top in 10mm.
Title: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: sqlbullet on December 06 2013 07:50:51 AM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on December 05 2013 09:13:48 AM MST
The two I have tested are close to the top in 10mm.

Yes, but they are well off book in terms of load data.  So, unless you have several thousand $'s worth of pressure equipment laying around, you are building loads that are potentially unsafe.
Title: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: Intercooler on December 06 2013 03:48:41 PM MST
 Those black rounds are cool  8)
Title: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: The_Shadow on December 06 2013 03:56:26 PM MST
Quote from: sqlbullet on December 06 2013 07:50:51 AM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on December 05 2013 09:13:48 AM MST
The two I have tested are close to the top in 10mm.

Yes, but they are well off book in terms of load data.  So, unless you have several thousand $'s worth of pressure equipment laying around, you are building loads that are potentially unsafe.

That's what makes the ID of the powder such a challenge, because the data is not normal ranges.  However it did fit other powder profiles like AA#5.  IC spoke with the people and was told that is what they used.  The projectile is lighter than advertised, is coated also, so that may play into the achievable results to a point.  Once I get some of these powders in my inventory to play with I will learn even more.  :-\
Title: Re: Re: Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down
Post by: soutthpaw on December 07 2013 12:08:31 AM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on December 06 2013 03:48:41 PM MST
Those black rounds are cool  8)
racist bullets:o:D.   Just need some white oxide coatings to be PC...