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Title: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Intercooler on January 08 2014 02:58:41 AM MST
   I received mail from Anthony they will offer the 220 Hardcast. They have a good 200gr load and I see these being the same. The 135's they are working on now for release.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: The_Shadow on January 08 2014 08:36:44 AM MST
It looks like supplies are still making it out to the makers in some quantities.  Glad to see Anthony adding to his product line.  8)

That and this from Powder Valley
Powder: Guys, I don't know what to tell you on powder. I wish I had something good to report. Alliant has been telling us since November we would receive a shipment in December. Nothing has arrived and we can't get any further information out of them. Hodgdon was shut down for the last half of December and first part of January. We just received a shipment from them today but it was extremely small with no Winchester or Vihtavuori. The last Accurate and Ramshot shipments we received was in early December. It was a decent shipment but it was gone in a matter of a few days. The supply has gotten worse and the demand has stayed the same.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: 4949shooter on January 08 2014 01:57:02 PM MST
Great news! Any word on the speeds?
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Intercooler on January 08 2014 03:23:28 PM MST
  Nothing mentioned. I can pass along some suggestions.


Someone mentioned a better bullet. What is it? I can mention it too, if one exists.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: pacapcop on January 08 2014 05:52:45 PM MST
I don't want to use the term better bullet. They make nice 165's. Maybe 155's at various speeds, say, 1375 1400.135's at 1475. Just saying.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Intercooler on January 08 2014 06:08:13 PM MST
I meant a better Hardcast offering.  Yondering seemed to know of one.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: 4949shooter on January 09 2014 12:15:33 PM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on January 08 2014 06:08:13 PM MST
I meant a better Hardcast offering.  Yondering seemed to know of one.

Are you sending Yondering a PM?

Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Intercooler on January 09 2014 12:38:15 PM MST
I was in hopes he would roll out the choices here for us.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: 4949shooter on January 09 2014 01:24:21 PM MST
I hear ya! I don't know how often he ventures to this forum. I think he is primarily a reloader.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Intercooler on January 09 2014 02:51:06 PM MST
  I sent him a note to see if he knows a better choice.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Yondering on January 09 2014 05:10:07 PM MST
I don't think there are many "off the shelf" options, but any commercial casting outfit could use a better design. Accurate Molds has a couple, among others.

The truncated cone design's only real merit is that it's easy to manufacture the mold. That design leaves too much bullet inside the case though, that could be moved to the nose to increase case capacity. A more rounded ogive with a .280-.300" flat nose would be the most obvious improvement. Something like Accurate Mold's 40-220B, for example, or better yet a heavier version of the 40-200C with a single lube groove, would both be good choices.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Intercooler on January 09 2014 05:24:25 PM MST
  Who offers them ready to go in a production offering? Something in the 10k range at a pop.
Title: Re: PBR to offer 220gr Hardcast and 135's
Post by: Yondering on January 09 2014 11:11:45 PM MST
I don't know of anyone, but then again I don't buy cast bullets, since I make my own.

Someone should offer a bullet like that, but the demand is so small...

If you can find something that has a nose profile similar to most .40/10mm FMJ bullets, you'd be on the right track.