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Title: Hog hunting
Post by: 475/480 on July 23 2012 07:03:35 AM MDT
Thank the LORD I was able to go hog hunting Friday and Saturday morning.
I got off work a little early Friday and headed out of town . I was at the lease by 4pm and on stand at 6pm.
About 7:30pm a 150lb sow with 7-8 piglets came out of the river bottom to the feeder. I shot a 25lb'er at about 100 yards with the TC Encore 277 GNR (405 Winchester necked down to 270.  150 gr Nosler bullet at 2800 fps.I could have taken the sow but figured  I would let her raise the little ones.
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x150/475480/Goliad7-21-12001.jpg

Saturday morning I was walkng the back of the property close to the river and noticed a 125 lb boar about 50 yards away under a mesquite tree rooting up mesquite beans,so I put a stalk on him with the STI 10 MM and I was able to get to about 25 yards and could see him thru the tall grass rooting around under the tree.I raised the STI  and when I put the front sight on him I could not pick up his shoulder in the front sight :o . NOT good. The front sight on the STI blended perfectly with the black hogs body. He spooked about 5 seconds later. As soon as I got to Houston I had my gunsmith put a high viz sight on the STI. LORD willing I will go hog hunting early next month.

Sean
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: sqlbullet on July 23 2012 09:17:50 AM MDT
Sounds like a fun few days.

Not a lot of hogs around here, but the Utah DNR is offering a $50 bounty on coyote again starting in September.  Gonna try to get in on that action.
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Yondering on July 23 2012 10:47:38 AM MDT
Good stuff, sounds like fun!

Quote from: 475/480 on July 23 2012 07:03:35 AM MDT
when I put the front sight on him I could not pick up his shoulder in the front sight :o . NOT good. The front sight on the STI blended perfectly with the black hogs body.

This is exactly why I don't like all-black sights, front or rear. Good for shooting paper, no good for the woods.
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: REDLINE on July 23 2012 11:44:20 AM MDT
With the new sights hopefully early next month will generate a more successful ending to the hog hunt.  Best of Luck!  Can't wait to hear about it.  What 10mm load are you using for the hogs?
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: 475/480 on July 23 2012 11:51:49 AM MDT
Quote from: REDLINE on July 23 2012 11:44:20 AM MDT
With the new sights hopefully early next month will generate a more successful ending to the hog hunt.  Best of Luck!  Can't wait to hear about it.  What 10mm load are you using for the hogs?

215gr WFNGC  cast bullet out of the STI 10MM -6" bll- (AA7 -11.0gr = 1230 fps)
The 215gr cast bullet is from a mould I have -mountainmolds.com made it for me.

Sean
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Yondering on July 23 2012 02:35:12 PM MDT
Quote from: 475/480 on July 23 2012 11:51:49 AM MDT

215gr WFNGC  cast bullet out of the STI 10MM -6" bll- (AA7 -11.0gr = 1230 fps)
The 215gr cast bullet is from a mould I have -mountainmolds.com made it for me.

Sean

Do you have a pic (or care to share specs) of that bullet? What size meplat did you spec, and how long are you able to load it without feed issues? I also had mountainmolds cut a 215gr WFN mold for me, but not a gas check version. I'm using it with gas checks made from soda cans, applied to the plain base during the lubing/sizing process. I specced mine at 215gr, but it actually weighs 218-219 cast from WW.

Depending on the length of your bullet and resulting case capacity, you may be able to push it a bit faster with AA9. I'm pushing mine just over 1300 fps from my 6.6" G20L using AA9, but that is a slightly compressed load, and my bullet is most likely shorter than yours (because of the gas check).

Here's a pic of mine. 2nd from the left has a soda can gas check on it. Far left is a 220gr Mihec .41 bullet sized down to .402".
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/zthang43/Bang/molds/IMG_0763.jpg)
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: cwlongshot on July 23 2012 03:21:40 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on July 23 2012 02:35:12 PM MDT

Here's a pic of mine. 2nd from the left has a soda can gas check on it. Far left is a 220gr Mihec .41 bullet sized down to .402".
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/zthang43/Bang/molds/IMG_0763.jpg)

Thats a nice looking bullet! Have you seen any negative with only one lube groove?

I have a couple thousand 220 SWC hard cast for my 41 mags. RE Sizing a few to try at .401 has crossed my mind...  ;D

CW

CW
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Yondering on July 23 2012 04:08:03 PM MDT
The only negative has been related to the rearward position of the lube groove. I designed it that way to be able to load it in 40 S&W brass as shown in the pic; it works well but does give some leading towards the muzzle at higher velocity. No leading issues below about 1150-ish fps. Accuracy is as good or better than any other cast bullet I've tried. I've thought about ordering a similar design, but with a deep crimp groove in the middle of the front driving band, similar to that Mihec bullet on the left of my pic. The crimp groove would be used as a lube groove, without taking up as much space as a standard lube groove.

You should measure the length of those 220gr SWC's; they are probably too long to be of any use in the 10mm. The SWC design is not efficient when powder capacity is limited. My 215 WFN bullet measures about .675" long. The Mihec 220 on the left measures about .710" long. Any longer than that, and velocity potential drops off in a hurry, and the base of the bullet gets seated into the tapered part of the brass, causing bulges and chambering issues.
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: 475/480 on August 08 2012 07:55:01 AM MDT
Do you have a pic (or care to share specs) of that bullet? What size meplat did you spec, and how long are you able to load it without feed issues? *****

Sorry about the delay I did not see this untill now. The bullet has a 75% meplat and feeds great at a OAL . 1.245" in my Caspian 10MM and the STI 10MM. Any longer and it will not feed consistently.
Here is a pic of the  190gr LFNGC and the 215 gr WFNGC with the Reeder Ultimate 10MM and G20SF w/LWD ported barrel.
The 215gr is the bottom bullet . It has a crimp groove for revolvers and a TC Contender barrel I have in 401 GNR (44 Mag necked down to 10)

Sean
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x150/475480/Sheridan4-21-12119-1.jpg
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Yondering on August 08 2012 09:52:09 AM MDT
Those look good. How long is that 215gr bullet with the gas check on?

Are you using 41 mag gas checks, or did you get in on a group buy for 40 cal checks?

Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: 475/480 on August 08 2012 11:17:12 AM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on August 08 2012 09:52:09 AM MDT
Those look good. How long is that 215gr bullet with the gas check on?

Are you using 41 mag gas checks, or did you get in on a group buy for 40 cal checks?

Bullet length = .661". They are the 40 cal GC from Gator checks.

Sean
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Yondering on August 08 2012 02:51:49 PM MDT
Wow, that's really short; does that include the gas check? Do they actually weigh 215gr? My 215 bullet is .675" long, but has only one lube groove, no crimp groove, and no gas check, and a 73% meplat. I'd think it should be shorter than yours, that's weird.
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: 475/480 on August 10 2012 08:54:35 AM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on August 08 2012 02:51:49 PM MDT
Wow, that's really short; does that include the gas check? Do they actually weigh 215gr? My 215 bullet is .675" long, but has only one lube groove, no crimp groove, and no gas check, and a 73% meplat. I'd think it should be shorter than yours, that's weird.

That is with GC on. My alloy has always been a liilte heavier than some , no doubt the lead % is higher. I spec'd the weight at 205gr in WW but with my alloy it weighs 215gr .


Sean
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Yondering on August 10 2012 10:27:12 AM MDT
Ok, that makes more sense. WW alloy in .401" diameter is approximately .030" long per 10 grains, so the same bullet specced at 215gr would've been ~.690" long. My MM mold also casts a little heavier, I ordered 215gr but it's more like 220gr, with WW (clip on only).
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: nickE10mm on August 10 2012 12:18:41 PM MDT

Very nice, thanks for the report 475!
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: hillbillyhans on August 11 2012 12:53:10 AM MDT
Any pics of the hunt?
Wished I still lived somewhere with wild pigs for the taking!
25lb pig is just right for some sandwiches!
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: 475/480 on August 12 2012 06:27:04 AM MDT
Quote from: hillbillyhans on August 11 2012 12:53:10 AM MDT
Any pics of the hunt?
Wished I still lived somewhere with wild pigs for the taking!
25lb pig is just right for some sandwiches!

My first post has the only picture

Sean
Title: Re: Hog hunting
Post by: Harleycolt on September 07 2012 11:40:21 PM MDT
Quote from: hillbillyhans on August 11 2012 12:53:10 AM MDT
Any pics of the hunt?
Wished I still lived somewhere with wild pigs for the taking!
25lb pig is just right for some sandwiches!

Move to Texas we have plenty of them ;D