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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: 4949shooter on May 15 2014 01:59:20 PM MDT

Title: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 15 2014 01:59:20 PM MDT
165 grain Velocity Supreme FMJ:

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(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/4949shooter/003-1.jpg) (http://s259.photobucket.com/user/4949shooter/media/003-1.jpg.html)

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh289/4949shooter/004.jpg) (http://s259.photobucket.com/user/4949shooter/media/004.jpg.html)

As you can see from the pics, the ammo is packed loose in the boxes, which are heavy card board. The brass is Starline. The ammo is nice and shiny, and clean.  The shipping from Underwood was cheaper coming from Maryland to NJ. The PBR is coming from Texas thus the shipping was $5 more.

I plan to try it out this weekend in my Glock 20 SF. I will be sure to give a report on how it shoots if I do.

Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: pacapcop on May 15 2014 02:43:18 PM MDT
Worked great out of Gen 3 with 165's.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 15 2014 02:50:50 PM MDT
Thanks. Did you fire any Underwood 165 grain? I am wondering if there was a noticeable difference.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: The_Shadow on May 15 2014 03:58:07 PM MDT
That's the same stuff like Chucky2 sent me to test, I did the pull-down and tested it from my G-20SF even trying to induce a failure and it ran perfectly.

Pull-down link; http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/parabellum-research-pbr-v-supreme-165gr-fmj-(from-chucky2)/ (http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/parabellum-research-pbr-v-supreme-165gr-fmj-(from-chucky2)/)

Test results in comments afterwards...
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 15 2014 05:12:47 PM MDT
Thanks Shadow. I am looking forward to trying it this weekend.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 15 2014 05:16:00 PM MDT
Is that with your discount? Underwood is in Illinois now.


You can save a little more at PBR if you use a business address.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 15 2014 05:34:31 PM MDT
Yes, which helped defray (some of) the cost of the shipping.

I didn't realize Underwood had moved to Illinois, but they still only charged me $14.51 for shipping for my last order, which was on April 23.

I spoke to Anthony on the phone, and he didn't say anything about shipping to a business address, though he seemed busy.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 15 2014 06:11:47 PM MDT
If the address you enter is listed as a business the FedEx system will pick it up. That's what Anthony said.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 15 2014 06:16:19 PM MDT
Okay thanks.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: chucky2 on May 15 2014 11:24:35 PM MDT
Yep, same stuff I sent to The_Shadow to see if it FTF is his Gen3 like it does in my Gen4 - it didn't.

Be interesting to see how it does in yours.

And, that is news that Underwood moved to IL!  Given the IL'ness that is IL, I can't believe he chose that over, say, Indy area.  He at least chose the nicer region of IL, lots of good people down there...also I think the prettiest area of IL.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 18 2014 03:00:16 PM MDT
Well, I got to the range today and fired 100 rounds of the PBR. Disappointingly, I had one failure to extract with this ammo and one slide lock back on the last round.  :(

I have 200 rounds of it left, which I will probably just shoot up on the range. I was hoping for better results. The Underwood 165 grain has been flawless. I don't know what the differences are, but I will stick with them for carry ammo.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 18 2014 03:27:53 PM MDT
  Which PBR rounds were you running? It's not the ammo causing the issues and I will swap you something else if it helps you. Could be something in your setup doesn't agree with it. I wish I could help you figure it out, but every 10mm I own eats them all up and spits them out. Possibly something might be wore and in need of attention?

 
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 18 2014 03:30:24 PM MDT
It was the above 165 grain velocity supreme. I don't know...the Underwood 165 grain stuff runs flawless through my setup. The Underwood might be slightly hotter going by the sheet, but the PBR still should have worked.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 18 2014 03:34:11 PM MDT
 Yes it should. Those ran fine for The Shadow as well in his Glock. How much work if any have you done on your barrel and extractor?
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 18 2014 03:37:11 PM MDT
No work at all to barrel and extractor. The only thing I did was put in a 22 pound RSA, which worked fine with the Underwood.

Chances are it could have been a fluke. Perhaps I will find out if / when I shoot the remaining 200 rounds.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 18 2014 03:54:55 PM MDT
 It wouldn't hurt to polish the hood and ramp.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 18 2014 04:01:43 PM MDT
I could think about it. I just don't know how that would affect the tennifer finish, or melonite, or whatever they are calling it now. Recall this is my backup weapon when hunting predators at night, and it will be exposed to the elements more than most other handguns I have.

I know you are trying to help. Thanks just the same.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 18 2014 04:05:13 PM MDT
They put that coating on the barrel? I thought that was only the slide?
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 18 2014 04:08:31 PM MDT
The treatment is on all the metal parts that are not Teflon coated (barrel, slide, extractor). It actually is absorbed into the pores of the metal.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Dave84 on May 18 2014 06:26:26 PM MDT
If the Underwood works for you just keep that as your carry ammo. The rest is just range fodder especially if it wont function 100% of the time. What do you carry in it when you hunt? 200 Gr XTP or 220 Grain hardcast?
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: 4949shooter on May 18 2014 06:53:19 PM MDT
I have carried 200 grain XTP as well as 180 grain XTP in the woods. Eventually, I would like to switch over to a full metal jacket or hard cast load, something with deeper penetration.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Intercooler on May 18 2014 08:13:02 PM MDT
Trophy Bond might be a good one for you then.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: Dave84 on June 01 2014 02:26:03 PM MDT
Old topic new thread. Does anybody shoot this with an aftermarket barrel? I cannot get Underwood to function of out my six inch stormlake barrel to save my life. Only way that stuff gets close to 100% is nearly stock form but with a 22 lb recoil spring.
Title: Re: Got Some PBR Ammo In
Post by: n2horns on June 04 2014 10:47:09 PM MDT
165 underwood HP and FMJ from standard length kkm barrel, no issues.