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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on July 27 2012 11:40:53 AM MDT

Title: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on July 27 2012 11:40:53 AM MDT
    This was the first ammo I purchased to shoot in my very first 10mm. Haven't shot any since but threw on a box with a PSA order. Just too cheap to not! I know it's weak but looks good so I will test it again.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/181106_424733357564702_446005377_n.jpg)
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: REDLINE on July 27 2012 04:29:01 PM MDT
Looking forward to seeing the results, even if they aren't worth writing home about.  The slightly upped velocity you get with your guns makes it all look a little better to those of us with G20s anyway. 8)
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on July 27 2012 04:51:57 PM MDT
Here's to hoping it breaks 1000 FPS  ;D

Even if I have to use the Hunter  :o
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: REDLINE on July 27 2012 11:09:45 PM MDT
I'll keep my fingers crossed. :D
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 01 2012 04:14:46 PM MDT
Well Well Well!! David did the initial test on the PPU and this is my first time testing it for myself on the Chrony. I do remember way back when it shot good but was weak. They have either started loading it better or something. I did all three 10's just to verify:

(Match) 1111, 1075, 1100, 1087, 1014, 1018, 1069, 1051, 1075, 1091. Average = 1069.1 FPS/ 456.73 LBS.

(Razorback) 1131, 1063, 1092, 1127, 1126. Average = 1107.8 FPS/ 490.39 LBS.

(Hunter) 1169, 1161, 1151, 1161, 1159. Average = 1160.2 FPS/ 537.88 LBS.

It's very good brass and at this level as good as any other paper puncher. The $16.99/box deal at PSA with free shipping is hands down the best 10mm deal going. The paper will never know the difference for plinking.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: sqlbullet on August 01 2012 04:45:28 PM MDT
That is a good price.  It works out to 359.00/1000 delivered to my home.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 01 2012 05:41:36 PM MDT
I tried to order some myself and now the free shipping isn't working. I contacted them on their FB page so waiting to hear back.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Breadman03 on August 01 2012 07:51:45 PM MDT
I'm surprised it broke 1000.  I put some through my G29.  IIRC, it chronoed at 870 fps or so.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 01 2012 09:36:40 PM MDT
   I was kind of shocked too. Old data was high 800's but I use my .22 for setup and I get 1100 with value box or 1300 with Stingers and got that today. That's the control I use but a Glock of course will be less around 1000 FPS average if I had to guess.

     MrRedbull is getting 14 different ammos from me to test in his Glocks which will give us more data.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: REDLINE on August 02 2012 01:33:10 AM MDT
14 more? :o  That's awesome! 8)
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: pacapcop on August 02 2012 05:12:49 AM MDT
Is Armscor safe to use?For a few bucks more one gets 1200+.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 02 2012 09:19:49 AM MDT
Out of the two boxes I had of Armscor it gave one case split. I think it's fine.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 05 2012 09:48:49 PM MDT
Since PSA ended their free shipping deal this is probably the next best thing with free shipping.

http://www.targetsportsusa.com/p-3224-prvi-partizan-10mm-auto-180-grain-jacketed-hollow-ammunition.aspx
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Patrice on August 12 2012 01:01:02 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on July 27 2012 11:40:53 AM MDT
    This was the first ammo I purchased to shoot in my very first 10mm. Haven't shot any since but threw on a box with a PSA order. Just too cheap to not! I know it's weak but looks good so I will test it again.
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/181106_424733357564702_446005377_n.jpg)

Yeah, that's what I did with an order, although I've tried PPU before (very underpowered, brass was too soft; chamber a cartridge more than once and get significant set-back; fired cases with cracks....Very poor quality stuff, but it did go bang).

BUT....This last box.  It seemed to have significantly more power, and fired brass appeared to be in as pristine a condition as any I've seen.  I'm hoping that things have changed for the better with this brand, but I can't find any of it cheap enough in my locale to warrant further purchase.--Patrice
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 12 2012 02:03:46 PM MDT
Glad someone else saw the same thing. Fine looking brass after firing it but on-line is about the only option.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: pacapcop on August 12 2012 10:10:50 PM MDT
I actually used PPU today to qualify for off duty.One of 2 that im allowed.The Witness Match ate it up.The Compact,so so.I choose the Compact,had to tap,rack,bang 3 times.Glock 20,UnderWoods 165 Golden Saber performed 100%.Reason i chose the Compact was the course changed in terms of timeing and i carry my 10s in shoulder rigs.The Match would of worked more so in a hip holster(Blade Tech) but i had to deal with what i had.Off duty carry requirements are not as liberal.They document what your useing and that's what is expected what you will carry.As it stands,the double action in a shoulder rig in terms of timeing works alot better,obviuously.The PPU is dirty,but hey,thats why we clean are guns.Maybe if we touch base with PPU and express that for a couple dollars more they can produce a 10mm round that fits the bill.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 12 2012 10:26:35 PM MDT
  You mean better bullet or loading? How did they feel to you? I actually did e-mail them about two weeks ago with my results and asked about upping it even more. No response! I'm waiting on Mr.Redbull's results out of his Glock to see what is going on. The old numbers were about a 900 FPS even and what I got exceeded that a good bit.

       Maybe my Chrony is crazy  :P but I also control test it with known .22LR rounds and then I retest many at a later date. Beats me.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: pacapcop on August 12 2012 10:43:27 PM MDT
I would say loading first.The Match ate it up.Problem i observed again,the Compact Mag's suck.The Red followers on the Compact are horrible IMO.Hunch is if they made a Mag like the Mec Gar K10's this would be a moot issue.Again IMHO.Those Compact Mags are double stack and the feed lips suck.The mags need a stronger spring but more so better feed lips like the new K10's.Back to your question,yes the load needs more juice.Heck i get more out of BVAC loads.
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: Intercooler on August 12 2012 10:59:24 PM MDT
The HP on the PPU flat out sucks too which limits it to a paper punching round.


It's funny how many Companies I e-mail or send stuff too and get no response. You know who I get good responses from? The little guys!
Title: Re: PPU Ammo next
Post by: sqlbullet on August 13 2012 07:42:47 AM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on August 12 2012 10:59:24 PM MDT
The HP on the PPU flat out sucks too which limits it to a paper punching round.


It's funny how many Companies I e-mail or send stuff too and get no response. You know who I get good responses from? The little guys!

I have been having this experience too, and not just general questions.  I have money in my pocket to buy a new recoil spring plug for my CCO build.  I email and request a quote and get no response.  They don't have to be cheap.  Not like I am saying they have to do it for the same price as a catalog item.

Briley is the only mfg to respond to date.