At least if you are willing to learn how to assemble a lower. And it is really very easy.
I have noticed lately that I can always find a lower + a rifle kit for under $500. In my area, usually under $500 including shipping and fees.
Right now on Palmetto State Armory's website you can track down a rifle kit that includes everything but the stripped lower for $399. Add in one of the Independence Day lowers for $49, and you have a $50 to spend on shipping and FFL. In my area I would come in well under $500.
Just mentioning this as I think many guys are skipping the AR game as they are perceived to be "expensive". But deals can be had. I didn't link cause I don't want anyone thinking I am pimping gear. If you are interested it is easy to find on their site.
Anyone else seeing great deals hear lately?
Yep, if someone has been sitting on the fence for an AR, now seems to be the time to buy. Hell, I see new Colt 6920's for way below a grand. I'm still waiting for a deal on a gently abused LMT.
Any if you AR guys have RMW's 10mm AR? I've been thinking about that.
I haven't. But just reading specs that upper certainly looks to be a good option for 10mm.
Yes. Should I get 16" barrel version as my first one or shorter?
I really could use some advice on this! I'm not an AR guy and while this is not my first 10 mm is my first AR so
Is 16 inch the right barrel size or should I consider shorter ones?
Quote from: sstewart on July 21 2014 04:52:56 PM MDT
I really could use some advice on this! I'm not an AR guy and while this is not my first 10 mm is my first AR so
Is 16 inch the right barrel size or should I consider shorter ones?
IIRC, anything shorter than 16" on a rifle is considered a SBR, needing the gubbermit permission and all the paperwork.
Good to know, that seals the deal for the 16 inch for me.
Define cheap. I mean I used to buy Mosin Nagant surplus rifles for $69.95. Of course that was way back before Obozo got elected and drove all the gun prices up.
$70 for a working fairly accurate 30 cal bolt action rifle was CHEAP!
Quote from: redbaron007 on July 22 2014 02:10:40 PM MDT
IIRC, anything shorter than 16" on a rifle is considered a SBR, needing the gubbermit permission and all the paperwork.
And at present a very long wait for the paperwork to get processed.
Of course, a pistol isn't a short barreled rifle and there are some pretty good "forearm stabilizers" out there. So you can be legal with a 14.5" or 10" as long as the lower is registered correctly.
Quote from: gandog56 on July 23 2014 10:01:06 AM MDT
Define cheap. I mean I used to buy Mosin Nagant surplus rifles for $69.95. Of course that was way back before Obozo got elected and drove all the gun prices up.
$70 for a working fairly accurate 30 cal bolt action rifle was CHEAP!
I picked up four back in those days. Good guns. Every collection should have a few.
Well not exactly about cheap, I have been waffling between getting a .308 AR or the 10 mm AR.
Since I have been strictly a pistol guy. I sure could use some coaching from some of you rifle guys out there
Quote from: sstewart on July 23 2014 02:25:21 PM MDT
Well not exactly about cheap, I have been waffling between getting a .308 AR or the 10 mm AR.
Since I have been strictly a pistol guy. I sure could use some coaching from some of you rifle guys out there
I don't have 10mm AR so can't speak to that. I do have a DPMS AR chambered in 308 which I thoroughly enjoy! Bought it middle of Nov. 2008 (date should be obvious to even casual observer) on a whim, just to have. Slapped a half decent scope on it and trotted to range to sight in. To my complete shock it was grouping 100 yard, 3 shot strings that could be covered by a quarter right out of the box which I most assuredly was not expecting. It instantly became primary hunting rifle for next three deer seasons. To this day it's #1 go to for almost every hog hunt I go on. Even with several other hunting rifle options, it still right at the top for whitetail or pigs. Don't know if others are just as good or if I just got really lucky but it's been used a lot and never disappointed (so long as I do my part right).
While I haven't gotten into the AR platform, I am leaning toward the AR10 chambered in .308 Winchester.
The .223/.224 AR15 does look like the cheapest for shooting and handloading standpoint. Less powder, cheaper bullets, plenty brass available.
Just haven't pulled the trigger on this project yet! :-\ ???
This is the only AR type 10mm I'm interested in and own.
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk296/SDS47/10MM/M-TG20sf.jpg) (http://s283.photobucket.com/user/SDS47/media/10MM/M-TG20sf.jpg.html)
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk296/SDS47/10MM/M-TG20sfcloseup.jpg) (http://s283.photobucket.com/user/SDS47/media/10MM/M-TG20sfcloseup.jpg.html)
Doug
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 23 2014 03:50:13 PM MDT
While I haven't gotten into the AR platform, I am leaning toward the AR10 chambered in .308 Winchester.
The .223/.224 AR15 does look like the cheapest for shooting and handloading standpoint. Less powder, cheaper bullets, plenty brass available.
Just haven't pulled the trigger on this project yet! :-\ ???
When you do, build your own. You will thoroughly enjoy the project, and end up with a well made rifle you know inside and out. If I can do it, anyone can.
Quote from: sstewart on July 23 2014 02:25:21 PM MDT
Well not exactly about cheap, I have been waffling between getting a .308 AR or the 10 mm AR.
Since I have been strictly a pistol guy. I sure could use some coaching from some of you rifle guys out there
Look into a Mechtech Conversion kit to make your 10mm pistol a carbine. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a 10mm AR.
http://www.mechtechsys.com/ (http://www.mechtechsys.com/)
Down to $399
http://www.slickguns.com/product/complete-ar15-rifle-39998-free-shipping-new-frontier-complete-lower-and-ptac-complete-upper
Wow...that is down near SKS range.
Well, I guess more like $450 by the time you trade out the New Frontier Poly lower. Not a quality lower.
All the problems I've seen th the range with people with AR's, I got a Saiga .223 with an AK47 type action instead. Bet I can clean mine out about 50-75% faster than an AR owner. I shoot any old milsurp or reload out of it, it don't care. Was accurate enough when I put a scope on it to pop balloons tied out 200-250 yards.
Quote from: gandog56 on September 12 2014 01:39:01 PM MDT
All the problems I've seen th the range with people with AR's, I got a Saiga .223 with an AK47 type action instead. Bet I can clean mine out about 50-75% faster than an AR owner. I shoot any old milsurp or reload out of it, it don't care. Was accurate enough when I put a scope on it to pop balloons tied out 200-250 yards.
I miss my FN/FNC for that reason...