I am fairly new to the world of the 10mm auto cartridge and I am seeking some advice as to an appropriate load for bowling pin shoots at my local club. Anybody shoot pin matches and have an appropriate load? I generally use a Kimber in .45acp with 230gr flat nose bullets. The flat point seems to drive the pins off of the table much better than RN bullets.
I would think a heavy wfn design cast from ww and pure lead 50/50 and loaded to about 1000 fps. Seems like you would want something that would expand a bit.
pure lead is too soft; why waste knock down power. Start with a RNFP in 15-17 BH, work your way up. Years back some nuts even made saw teeth with harder mix.
First...Zombie thread.
Second, who said pure lead?
Haven't shot pins with a 10mm yet, but I'd be thinking a fpl bullet (180) doing in the 1000-1100 fps range. Too hot a load and your followup shots will be too slow.
I shoot a 215 gr. WFN, with 6.2 gr. of Power Pistol. It does 1000 fps out of a 6 inch 610.
Once upon a time ther was a bullt that was called the "pin grabber". a saw-tooth meplat worked to "bite" into the pin as it spun and ultimately knocked over the bowling pins with greater efficiency than standard bullets.
Pin grabbers and law grabbers were toothed hollow-point designs that didn't really live up to the hype. Seems like I read that a small shop back east somewhere was still selling the wider law grabbers.
I've been working on my load. I'm either going to use 180 XTPs over bluedot for about 1200 FPS or my powdercoated 180gr lead at around the same velocity. Im going to test them and see if they have enough oomph to push the pins the required 3 feet off the table.
I think a slow and heavy bullet like the 220 or 230 grain at 900 fps would be a great pin load...think of a sledge hammer.
If you dial them up too high they will expend a lot of energy trying to penetrate the into pin.
Do guys shoot these pins with their 45ACP's? Find what is working for them, match that or up the velocity a little and you will have a very comfortable shooting working load. ;)
Yes on the .45acp. I generally win the .45 class every year with my Kimber but just thought I'd try something new, I can use 10mm in .45 class. There are 10 classes total, everything from .22 snubbies to .44 mags.
Here is the set up. 4x8 wooden table 25 feet from the firing line. Pins must hit the ground not just be knocked over.
It would help if I would have attached the pic!!!!LOL
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Just attended a fun bowling pin shoot. First time my local range had hosted one. Took my Sig P220 DA/SA loaded with 180 gr FP polymer coated bullets (Blue Bullets) on top of 6.5 gr of Power Pistol. Pretty decent recovery after each shot and had more than enough 'oomph' to knock the pins several feet off the table. I think for giggles next time I won't worry about shot recovery so much, i'll up my load, and go for blasting the pins into next week. :)
Quote from: Pumpkinheaver on January 16 2016 11:06:35 PM MST
I've been working on my load. I'm either going to use 180 XTPs over bluedot for about 1200 FPS or my powdercoated 180gr lead at around the same velocity. Im going to test them and see if they have enough oomph to push the pins the required 3 feet off the table.
I'm pretty sure the powder coated 180s at 1200fps will be more than enough...thinking the XTPs are kinda pricey for pin loads, but that's just me ;)
We use to shoot the pins with .22's when we were done blasting them with bigger calibers. The .22's will knock them over, but you have to hit them just right. You can wobble them, and get them to walk off the rail, if you shoot them fast enough with the .22. :)
My club has its first pin shoot this Sunday. I have settled on 10.0grs Bluedot under my home cast, home powder coated 180s. I'll give you boys an after action report if I can remember!!!! Anybody in SE Missouri is welcome to come on down and shoot with us. It's at 67 Gunclub outside of Farmington Mo.
Pins were/are my first love as far as competition goes. Curious to hear how your 10mm does. What kind of times are you shooting with your 45's? Shooting like your pic shows, at my best, I was a mid 3 sec shooter consistently and my best time was a 2.39.
Quote from: TSP45ACP on April 01 2016 06:52:07 PM MDT
Pins were/are my first love as far as competition goes. Curious to hear how your 10mm does. What kind of times are you shooting with your 45's? Shooting like your pic shows, at my best, I was a mid 3 sec shooter consistently and my best time was a 2.39.
That's pretty good shooting!!! I assume the rules were the same? Pins are a foot from the front of the table, pins must be off the table not just knocked over. If you knock them down you must keep shooting till they are off the table. I run 4-5 seconds a table on a good day. This is usually good enough to win the class. No optics or compensators allowed.
Well I'm happy to say that my new 10mm pin load works very well. It easily drives the pins the three feet required to leave the table. I ended up taking first place in the .45 class with the new 10mm load.
Quote from: Pumpkinheaver on April 01 2016 08:38:09 PM MDT
Quote from: TSP45ACP on April 01 2016 06:52:07 PM MDT
Pins were/are my first love as far as competition goes. Curious to hear how your 10mm does. What kind of times are you shooting with your 45's? Shooting like your pic shows, at my best, I was a mid 3 sec shooter consistently and my best time was a 2.39.
That's pretty good shooting!!! I assume the rules were the same? Pins are a foot from the front of the table, pins must be off the table not just knocked over. If you knock them down you must keep shooting till they are off the table. I run 4-5 seconds a table on a good day. This is usually good enough to win the class. No optics or compensators allowed.
Congrats on your win and a winning load.
Yup, same rules and pin setups. Those results were 6-8 years ago (as I stated "at my best") and I'll never be that good again......slower reflexes, aging eyes, injured/surgery on my non shooting hand doesn't allow as good a support anymore. Now I'm prob closer to a non-consistent 6-8 second shooter on a good day, but haven't shot pins in 4+ years (nobody has a pin comp anymore.....though I'd love to find it again). My 45 loads were with a 255lswc at close to +P loads out of a SA Longslide.
I used heavy bullets in my Kimber .45 as well. I sure do like the way the 10mm performed today. I think the Kimber is retired as far as pins are concerned.
We used to use 180 g JHP at 1200 FPS out of a 6" 610. 8.2 grains of Winchester action pistol. Worked really well.
I don't think its made any longer.
I think possibly HP38 is the same powder but not sure of that .