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Title: Unbelievable!
Post by: Mr. AR50 on July 17 2015 08:40:43 PM MDT
My dad was a Marine in WWII, and if he were alive today, this crap would break his heart!
http://if.inboxfirst.com/ga/click/2-1587224-6-77953-166963-1614439-f3a487e622-ea96a36ea2

God bless our men and women in the military, past and present.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 18 2015 02:32:04 PM MDT
Congress needs to pass a law deporting all Muslims and Hispanics ASAP.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Mr. AR50 on July 18 2015 03:43:50 PM MDT
Nope, just the progressive liberals and their ilk. Start with Obama, and work your way down. The Kool-aid drinkers will follow. Cut off the snakes head, and the body dies, eventually.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: The_Shadow on July 18 2015 05:20:07 PM MDT
Food for thought;

Very interesting article - and very persuasive logic.  This could be a mind changer.
Why Obama and Hillary Must Stop Donald Trump at All Costs

Tuesday, July 7, 2015 8:04

(Before It's News)
By Wayne Allyn Root
Someone is getting very nervous. Obama. Valerie Jarrett. Eric Holder. Hillary Clinton. Jon Corzine...to name just a few. And I know why.
I wrote a book entitled, The Murder of the Middle Class
about the unholy conspiracy between big government, big business and big media. They all benefit by the billions from this partnership and its in all of their interests to protect one another. Its one for all, and all for one.
Its a heck of a filthy relationship that makes everyone filthy rich. Everyone except the American people. We get ripped off. We are the patsies.
But for once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are I've I've never seen them this outraged this vicious...this motivated...this coordinated. NEVER in an all my years in politics, have I seen anything like the way the mad dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump.
When white extremist David Dukes ran for Governor of Louisiana even he was not treated with this kind of outrage, vitriol and disrespect. When a known fraud, scam artist and tax cheat like Al Sharpton ran for President, I never saw anything remotely close to this. The over-the-top reaction to Trump by politicians of both parties, the media and the biggest corporations of America has been so swift and insanely angry that it suggests they are all threatened and frightened like never before.
Why? Because David Duke was never going to win. Al Sharpton was never going to win. Ron Paul was never going to win. Ross Perot was never going to win as a third party candidate. None of those candidates had the billion dollars it takes to win the presidency. But Donald Trump can self fund that amount tomorrow...and still have another billion left over to pour into the last two week stretch run before election day.

No matter how much they say to the contrary, the media, business and political elite understand that Donald Trump is no joke and could actually win and upset their nice cozy apple cart.
Its no coincidence that everyone has gotten together to destroy Donald. No this is a coordinated conspiracy led by President Barack Obama himself. Obama himself is making the phone calls and giving the orders- the ultimate intimidator who plays by the rules of Chicago thug politics.
Why is this so important to Obama? Because most of the other politicians are part of the old boys club. They talk big, but in the end they wont change a thing. Why? Because they are all beholden to big money donors. They are all owned by lobbyists, unions, lawyers, gigantic environmental organizations, multinational corporations like Big Pharma or Big Oil. Or they are owned lock stock and barrel by foreigners- like George Soros owns Obama, or foreign governments own Hillary with their Clinton Foundation donations.
These run-of-the-mill establishment politicians are all puppets owned by big money. But one man- and only one man- is not beholden to anyone. One man does not need foreigners, or foreign governments, or George Soros, or the United Autoworkers, or the Teachers Union, or the SEIU, or the Bar Association to fund his campaign.
Billionaire tycoon and maverick Donald Trump does not need anyone's help. That means he doesn't care what the media says. He doesn't care what the corporate elites think. That makes him very dangerous to the entrenched interests. That makes Trump a huge threat. Trump can ruin everything for the bribed politicians and their spoiled slave masters.
Don't you ever wonder why the GOP has never tried to impeach Obama? Don't you wonder why Boehner and McConnell talk a big game, but never actually try to stop Obama? Don't you wonder why Congress holds the purse strings, yet they've never tried to defund Obamacare or Obamas clearly illegal Executive Action on amnesty for illegal aliens? Bizarre, right? It defies logic, right?
Well first, Id guess many key Republicans are being bribed. Secondly, I believe many key Republicans are being blackmailed. Whether they are having affairs...or secretly gay...or stealing taxpayer money...the NSA knows everything.
Ask former House Speaker Dennis Hastert about that. The government even knew he was withdrawing large sums of his own money, from his own bank account. Trust me- the NSA, SEC, IRS and all the other 3-letter government agencies are watching every Republican political leader. They know everything.
Thirdly, many Republicans are petrified of being called racists. So they are scared to ever criticize Obama, or call out his crimes, let alone demand his impeachment.
Fourth, why rock the boat? After defeat or retirement, if you're a good boy you've got a $5 million dollar per year lobbying job waiting.
The big money interests have the system gamed. Win or lose¦they win.
But Donald Trump doesn't play by any of these rules. Trump breaks up this nice cozy relationship between big government, big media and big business. All the rules are out the window if Donald wins the presidency. The other politicians will protect Obama and his aides. But not Donald.
Remember Trump is the guy who publicly questioned Obama's birth certificate. He questioned Obama's college records and how a mediocre student got into an Ivy League university.
Now hes doing something no Republican has the chutzpah to do- question our relationship with Mexico ...question why the border is wide open...questioning why no wall has been built across the border...questioning if allowing millions of illegal aliens into America is in our best interests...questioning why so many illegal aliens commit violent crimes yet are not deported...questioning why our trade deals with Mexico, Russia and China are so bad.
Donald Trump has the audacity to ask out loud why American workers always get the short end of the stick? Good question.
I'm certain Trump will question what happened to the almost billion dollars given in a rigged no-bid contract to college friends of Michele Obama at foreign companies to build the defective Obamacare web sites. By the way that tab is now up to $5 billion.
Trump will ask if Obamacares architects can be charged with fraud for selling it by lying. He will ask if Obama himself committed fraud when he said, If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it.
Trump will investigate Obama's widespread IRS conspiracy, not to mention Obama's college records.
Trump will prosecute Hillary Clinton and Obama for fraud committed to cover-up Benghazi before the election.
How about the fraud committed by employees of the Labor Department when they made up dramatic job numbers in the last jobs report before the 2012 election.
Obama, the multinational corporations and the media need to stop this. They recognize this could get out of control. If left unchecked telling the raw truth and asking questions everyone else is afraid to ask, Donald could wake a sleeping giant.
Trumps election would be a nightmare. Obama has committed many crimes. No one else but Donald would dare to prosecute. Donald Trump will not hesitate. Once Donald gets in and gets a look at the cooked books and Obama's records, the game is over. The gig is up. The goose is cooked.
Eric Holder could wind up in prison. Valerie Jarrett could wind up in prison. Obama bungler Jon Corzine could wind up in prison for losing $1.5 billion of customer money.
Hillary Clinton could wind up in jail for deleting 32,000 emails ...or accepting bribes from foreign governments while Secretary of State ...or for misplacing $6 billion as head of State Department ...or for lying about Benghazi.
The entire upper level management of the IRS could wind up in prison. Obamacare will be defunded and dismantled. The Obama Crime Family will be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. And Obama himself could wind up ruined, his legacy in tatters.
Trump will investigate. Trump will prosecute. Trump will go after everyone involved...just for fun. That will all happen on Trumps first day in the White House.

Who knows what Donald will do on day #2?
That's why the dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump. That's why we must all support Donald. This may be our only shot at saving America, uncovering the crimes committed against our nation and prosecuting all of those involved.

Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Mr. AR50 on July 18 2015 06:56:54 PM MDT
Very informative article  Shadow, thank you! I'm going to have to seriously consider Trump, especially if he continues to refuse to bow down to the entrenched GOP elite. I wonder who he'll choose for a running mate.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 18 2015 07:21:09 PM MDT
Trump is a Rockefeller Republican.

A Republican that only cares about making cash and using wedge issues to get elected.

Hillary will destroy him.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Mr. AR50 on July 18 2015 11:37:09 PM MDT
Wolfie, I don't think so. Just from a monetary standpoint, Trump can come up with more campaign funding than all of the other candidates, Republican and Democrat, combined. That alone will make for an interesting race. Also, I believe there is quite a bit of truth in the article that Shadow quoted in his earlier post here. Trump is a threat, and he would destroy Hillary in any debate, on any subject. She offers nothing new, only the same tired rhetoric and finger pointing. In the off chance that, God help us, Hillary did get elected, then the bumper sticker I saw the other day that said 'Obama put this country in the toilet. Elect Hillary, and she'll flush it!' would apply.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 07:00:07 AM MDT
Trump is done with his comments about McCain, he is a 4 time draft dodger.

As for Obama, he inherited a Republican Great Recession. He turned it around, ordered the execution of Osama bin Laden and created Obamacare.

Next year both parties will be holding conventions.

One will not invite its former presidents to speak and the other will have at least 2 popular presidents that will be standing room only.

First up will be Obama touting all of his accomplishments.

Then Bill.

Then Hillary.

Here is the bottom line, Democrats are leading and Republicans are just saying NO to everything. The GOP plan for America is to make the rich richer while fooling dumb white Republicans with promises to stop the gays, obamacare and hispanics.

If anyone does not see that from the 2014 GOP wins they are dumb as rocks.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: tommac919 on July 19 2015 07:14:25 AM MDT
To many Sheeple today, not enough people !
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Rich10 on July 19 2015 07:22:14 AM MDT
Trump, ugh....
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Pablo on July 19 2015 07:41:08 AM MDT
When Hillary starts talking and waffling and wagging and droning.........people will run for cover. Women hate her and men hate her worse.

Obama really hasn't done much. Weak recovery, if you call it that. Obama Osama has been tapped out. Obamacare is a noose around the neck of the declining middle class. The budget bomb still looms. And the RINO's are just as much to blame.

Trump at least speaks up against the Democrat Party cabal and death to America to grow the party club. The public does not want uncontrolled illegal immigration. It's a failure in every way . Murders and heinous crimes are committed by people who our government is aware of and have no legal right to be here. Sanctuary cities are a liberal failure except to once again grow the Democrat Party.

Trump is a loser who has supported Hillary Clinton. Really disgusting. McCain is a RINO who sold us down the river on multiple occasions. 
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 05:56:21 PM MDT
Pablo weakest economy since the last time the GOP blew out the economy this bad in 1930's. It takes time and its better than the record contraction and job losses Obama inherited.

As for Hillary 51% of voters are women. Do the math.

As for illegals I for one would have put tanks on the borders after 911 and locked down all borders and ports. But it was not to be. GOP run businesses needed the cheap labor. This became a issue the day Obama was sworn in like many other things.

Just think Texas does not use e Verify thats all you need to know.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 06:30:23 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 19 2015 05:56:21 PM MDT
Pablo weakest economy since the last time the GOP blew out the economy this bad in 1930's. It takes time and its better than the record contraction and job losses Obama inherited.

As for Hillary 51% of voters are women. Do the math.

As for illegals I for one would have put tanks on the borders after 911 and locked down all borders and ports. But it was not to be. GOP run businesses needed the cheap labor. This became a issue the day Obama was sworn in like many other things.

Just think Texas does not use e Verify thats all you need to know.

The only thing i can figure is you are a Union member and they have you brainwashed, its common among the simple-minded folks that make up most Unions.

I'm in IBEW, but guess what?, I CAN STILL THINK FOR MYSELF. (And I dont submit to the strong arm tactics of my crooked Union to try to force me to give money to their Democrat/Socialist party programs nonsense..)

From the post i have read of yours you clearly are a RED DIAPER DOPER BABY, and quite frankly i'm shocked to see you posting on this forum~ its kind of breathtaking to read your posts. (But this is America, you gotta take the good with the Wolfie, "and give them space to destroy".. I suppose, it seems to be the flavor of the day..)

Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 06:36:38 PM MDT
Yes I like unions.

The drop in union membership correlates to the drop in the middle class. But you have yours B and that's all that matters.

But don't worry the GOP will send all the jobs overseas and you will keep voting for them.

Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 06:40:58 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 19 2015 06:36:38 PM MDT
Yes I like unions.

The drop in union membership correlates to the drop in the middle class. But you have yours B and that's all that matters.

But don't worry the GOP will send all the jobs overseas and you will keep voting for them.

You sir are truly a fool, an utter fool. I have no idea why you are on this forum other than to troll and piss people off.


Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 06:45:21 PM MDT
Name calling is all you got BB?

I would respond to name calling with name calling but since I am on the other side I could get banned. So feel free to name calling and get away with it.

Union membership is at record lows and is likely to drop even further tomorrow when the Bureau of Labor Statistics announces new figures for 2010. Critics claim that unions are not important to the modern economy — with only 12 percent of workers currently unionized — but the truth is that if you care about the middle class, you need to care about unions.

The middle class is markedly stronger when workers join together in unions. As the chart below demonstrates, the sharp decline over the past 40 years in the percentage of workers organized in unions has been associated with an equally sharp drop in the share of the nation's income going to the middle class — those in the second, third and forth income quintiles*:

Keep voting for those that send jobs overseas.

Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 06:48:27 PM MDT
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/01/20/173738/report-incomes/
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 06:51:06 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 19 2015 06:45:21 PM MDT
Name calling is all you got BB?

I would respond to name calling with name calling but since I am on the other side I could get banned. So feel free to name calling and get away with it.

Union membership is at record lows and is likely to drop even further tomorrow when the Bureau of Labor Statistics announces new figures for 2010. Critics claim that unions are not important to the modern economy — with only 12 percent of workers currently unionized — but the truth is that if you care about the middle class, you need to care about unions.

The middle class is markedly stronger when workers join together in unions. As the chart below demonstrates, the sharp decline over the past 40 years in the percentage of workers organized in unions has been associated with an equally sharp drop in the share of the nation's income going to the middle class — those in the second, third and forth income quintiles*:

Keep voting for those that send jobs overseas.

See the benefit of working with small minded fools like yourself daily (Union Electrician) is i pretty well can spot your kind (SMELL YOUR SH@TTY STINK) from a mile away.

You vote FOR THE DOLLAR ON WOLFIE'S PAYCHECK~ PERIOD.. I vote to protect the innocent unborn child. Your motivations are selfish and vile~ mine are based on a view that the unborn child is a Human Being created by God in heaven,.. And that pretty much sums it up.

Still utterly shocked to see you be allowed to peddle your left wing tripe on a gunnin' forum, you should be tarred and feathered and ran out on a rail.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 06:53:10 PM MDT
More personal attacks from Brian.

I am not allowed to respond so I will not.

If you read my post I am pro Life. But that does not matter to you, you keep lying about me and call me names.

Keep using Gods name in vain BB.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: gandog56 on July 19 2015 08:01:38 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 18 2015 02:32:04 PM MDT
Congress needs to pass a law deporting all Muslims and Hispanics ASAP.

Never happen, the Dummycrats would lose half their electorate.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 08:04:55 PM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on July 19 2015 08:01:38 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 18 2015 02:32:04 PM MDT
Congress needs to pass a law deporting all Muslims and Hispanics ASAP.

Never happen, the Dummycrats would lose half their electorate.

Good for you brother!, telling it like it is! RIGHT ON!

Listen, the #2 Demf$&@ is OPENLY RUNNING AS A SOCIALIST~      WHAT MORE NEED I SAY?

Wolfie, (Genius) what say you? Enlighten us with your pearls of wisdom you dumb deaf& blind Liberal tool,.. Please, enlighten us.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Wolfie on July 19 2015 08:37:54 PM MDT
More name calling from BB.

Republicans runs Congress.

They can vote on deportation at anytime, what are they waiting for.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: tommac919 on July 19 2015 08:47:13 PM MDT
Need more popcorn for this thread
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 09:33:33 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 19 2015 08:37:54 PM MDT
More name calling from BB.

Republicans runs Congress.

They can vote on deportation at anytime, what are they waiting for.

DUMB AS A BAG OF HAIR
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Mr. AR50 on July 19 2015 10:21:40 PM MDT
I started this post because I was so angry at the fact that we have people in the military, men and women, past and present, who signed a blank check to defend this Country and its' Constitution, from any enemy, foreign or domestic, many of whom have paid the ultimate price, and yet they are treated as second class citizens by this administration, denied even the basic right of self defense, on American soil no less. My dad was a WWII veteran, and though I miss him every day, I wouldn't want him here today, to witness what this great country has deteriorated into.
Wolfie, I've seen your posts, and to say that I disagree with you is an understatement, and I have that right, as do you with me. That's what makes this country so great. We enjoy freedoms and liberties not possible in other countries, and yes, I know that we have made mistakes as a country, some horrific, some at the expense of other countries. That's another post for another day. My point is, the freedoms that we have now have been bought and paid for in blood, and the POS in the White House has shown more contempt for our country, and especially our military, than any other President in my lifetime certainly, and probably in history. People are getting fed up with Obama and his 'change'. God knows I am. I saw this article, and I think it shows exactly what I mean. To ALL of our military members, thank you so much!
https://outlook.live.com/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=HRbcsRSc4Wpxk7dTgHUFN0qxT34JhOR-ttj6TQ-6KcAwnVzlsZDSCGgAdAB0AHAAOgAvAC8AaQBmAC4AaQBuAGIAbwB4AGYAaQByAHMAdAAuAGMAbwBtAC8AZwBhAC8AYwBsAGkAYwBrAC8AMgAtADIAMAAwADEAMQA0ADMANgAtADUALQA3ADgANAA5ADIALQAxADYAOAAxADgAMQAtADEANgAyADEANQAxADUALQAzAGUANgBmAGQANQAxADcAOQBiAC0ANABmADYAYwBkADQAOAA0AGUAOAA.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fif.inboxfirst.com%2fga%2fclick%2f2-20011436-5-78492-168181-1621515-3e6fd5179b-4f6cd484e8
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 10:26:35 PM MDT
Quote from: Mr. AR50 on July 19 2015 10:21:40 PM MDT
I started this post because I was so angry at the fact that we have people in the military, men and women, past and present, who signed a blank check to defend this Country and its' Constitution, from any enemy, foreign or domestic, many of whom have paid the ultimate price, and yet they are treated as second class citizens by this administration, denied even the basic right of self defense, on American soil no less. My dad was a WWII veteran, and though I miss him every day, I wouldn't want him here today, to witness what this great country has deteriorated into.
Wolfie, I've seen your posts, and to say that I disagree with you is an understatement, and I have that right, as do you with me. That's what makes this country so great. We enjoy freedoms and liberties not possible in other countries, and yes, I know that we have made mistakes as a country, some horrific, some at the expense of other countries. That's another post for another day. My point is, the freedoms that we have now have been bought and paid for in blood, and the POS in the White House has shown more contempt for our country, and especially our military, than any other President in my lifetime certainly, and probably in history. People are getting fed up with Obama and his 'change'. God knows I am.
https://outlook.live.com/owa/redir.aspx?SURL=HRbcsRSc4Wpxk7dTgHUFN0qxT34JhOR-ttj6TQ-6KcAwnVzlsZDSCGgAdAB0AHAAOgAvAC8AaQBmAC4AaQBuAGIAbwB4AGYAaQByAHMAdAAuAGMAbwBtAC8AZwBhAC8AYwBsAGkAYwBrAC8AMgAtADIAMAAwADEAMQA0ADMANgAtADUALQA3ADgANAA5ADIALQAxADYAOAAxADgAMQAtADEANgAyADEANQAxADUALQAzAGUANgBmAGQANQAxADcAOQBiAC0ANABmADYAYwBkADQAOAA0AGUAOAA.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fif.inboxfirst.com%2fga%2fclick%2f2-20011436-5-78492-168181-1621515-3e6fd5179b-4f6cd484e8

Im kind of shocked someone close to him hasn't tried to "whisper in his ear". Heck it happenned to Hitler unsuccessfully/ but do you think the liberal media would even let us know if it did happen and fail? I think not.
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Mr. AR50 on July 19 2015 10:31:20 PM MDT
Brian, we are in agreement, and have something else in common. I'm also an electrician, going on 32 years now. Glad to see I'm not the only 'sparky' on this forum.  :-\
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: Brian B. on July 19 2015 10:35:25 PM MDT
Quote from: Mr. AR50 on July 19 2015 10:31:20 PM MDT
Brian, we are in agreement, and have something else in common. I'm also an electrician, going on 32 years now. Glad to see I'm not the only 'sparky' on this forum.  :-\

"You got a friend in me" (the avatar, LOL)
Title: Re: Unbelievable!
Post by: gandog56 on July 20 2015 07:51:36 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on July 19 2015 08:37:54 PM MDT
More name calling from BB.

Republicans runs Congress.

They can vote on deportation at anytime, what are they waiting for.

To get rid of Obozo so he can't veto it. You would need a whole lot more votes to override one.