Anyone else seen or heard (or shot) any of these "new" bullets that Underwood is loading from Lehigh Defense? Seems like it takes all the best from the Xtreme Penetrator concept but tones down the penetration depth in favor of additional wounding potential... Interesting.
https://www.underwoodammo.com/xtreme-defender/ (https://www.underwoodammo.com/xtreme-defender/)
Yes I was just reading about the new naming of Underwood's ammo
Yea that was my thought that they looked pretty nasty. I'm happy to see Underwood going down this road with some of these new bullet types.
Remain skeptical of the concept. Several test videos appearing to showing positive results with the concept, to mention a few: twangnbang, gunblast, even our raggedyman's (10mm) test on level IIA vest looked great. However, also tests of the projectile available that appear to reflect different result; one I characterize as not much different from fmj: raggedyman's 9mm test, tnoutdoors9.
So these $1.50 - $2.00 per round C&C machined projectiles look scary & nasty, but not sure if it's just a marketing fad or legit innovative concept that has real merit.
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Quote from: Rojo27 on August 05 2015 05:03:20 AM MDT
Remain skeptical of the concept. Several test videos appearing to showing positive results with the concept, to mention a few: twangnbang, gunblast, even our raggedyman's (10mm) test on level IIA vest looked great. However, also tests of the projectile available that appear to reflect different result; one I characterize as not much different from fmj: raggedyman's 9mm test, tnoutdoors9.
So these $1.50 - $2.00 per round C&C machined projectiles look scary & nasty, but not sure if it's just a marketing fad or legit innovative concept that has real merit.
:-\
All valid points; but in fairness: these bullets have a different/new design over the Xtreme Penetrator rounds. These Xtreme Defenders are designed, apparently, to inflict
more damage and travel
less distance, reducing their propensity to behave like an FMJ as was the tendency of the Xtreme Penetrators we all saw.
The bullet design seems to be a thinner cross and deeper cuts on the ogive of the bullet, did they tweak the bullet design as compared to what it was? It does look that way! Here is the 0.355" 9mm
(https://cdn6.bigcommerce.com/s-sihme6/products/1214/images/1120/9mm_90_grain_Xtreme_Defender_Underwood_Ammo__86176.1437764163.1280.1280.JPG?c=2)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0711/8833/files/Lehigh_Defense_Xtreme_Penetrator_Technolofy_ammo-250.jpg?5072)
Snake oil.
I'll admit the Military Arm Channel review of this round got my attention. Still skeptical and but unless it was a total sham; MAC's test results were very impressive.
I'll be interested to see more independent testing of these.
Anybody cashed in their kids college fund to afford a box yet? :o
These don't look cheap, but they have my interest!
Anyone have an update on these (in any cal.)?
Quote from: Wet1 on September 16 2015 07:10:12 PM MDT
These don't look cheap, but they have my interest!
Anyone have an update on these (in any cal.)?
Over $1.50 each.
I will just take my chances with inferior ammo/bullets since I can't carry concealed in my state anyways.
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More Gel Testing of this projectile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0piGeTVMZWs&feature=youtu.be
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a Phillips screwdriver tip?
The latest is a 115 grain 10MM version @ 1700 FPS. I stoke my mags with one of these every 3 rounds as penetrators
Quote from: Mongo on November 08 2015 08:08:06 PM MST
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like a Phillips screwdriver tip?
+1
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