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Title: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: The_Shadow on September 22 2015 12:13:01 PM MDT
Court-proofing your firearm, have a look...it may influence your choices and give credence to the fact that your firearm can be held as evidence.

http://www.glockforum.com/Court-proofing-your-firearm-glock-forum.html (http://www.glockforum.com/Court-proofing-your-firearm-glock-forum.html)
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: sqlbullet on September 22 2015 01:25:11 PM MDT
This is why I stand by the advice...If it doesn't increase the shoot-ability of the platform, don't spend time or money on it.  Even better, buy or build your gun with industry standard parts and dump money into ammo learning to shoot that gun.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: pacapcop on September 22 2015 01:27:23 PM MDT
Good article. Agencys require off duty firearms to be stock, no changes to trigger,barrel or reciever. i don't doubt that will not go against a CCW as well. Best keep it stock.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: Wolfie on September 22 2015 09:13:49 PM MDT
Dumb move to carry anything like that to begin with.

Intent is very easy to prove.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: sqlbullet on September 23 2015 08:02:49 AM MDT
Actually intent is almost impossible to ascertain.  It tends to be presumed with certain indicators, which results in it being functionally easy to prove.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: Wolfie on September 23 2015 09:00:55 AM MDT
A prosecutor looking to send you to jail will emphasize the added markings on the gun and a jury will use it against you.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: Yellow Jacket on September 29 2015 12:12:52 PM MDT
I've also heard that it's not a good idea to use handloads/reloads in your carry gun for the same reason.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: DM1906 on September 29 2015 01:22:57 PM MDT
Quote from: Wolfie on September 23 2015 09:00:55 AM MDT
A prosecutor looking to send you to jail will emphasize the added markings on the gun and a jury will use it against you.

Hogwash. Every prosecutor is looking to send you to jail. They wouldn't bother, otherwise. Most jurors don't care what "markings" are on a gun. The ones who do, are probably in your favor.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: DM1906 on September 29 2015 01:38:12 PM MDT
Quote from: Yellow Jacket on September 29 2015 12:12:52 PM MDT
I've also heard that it's not a good idea to use handloads/reloads in your carry gun for the same reason.

Not long ago (a mere 25-30 years), the suggestion of using "hollow point bullets" was considered an act of horrific violence. Anyone who used them (including police), were terrorists! Unless you are already of questionable character, the prosecutor and/or jury won't care. Using standard components comparable to commercial cartridges isn't uncommon or unreasonable (the standard required of every juror). Economic expedience lends no weight to malicious intent. If you are a handloader, you probably practice mostly, or entirely, with handloads. Why would it seem more "sensible" or "reasonable" for a person to carry/use a lethal means of defense with which they are unfamiliar/unpracticed? Every coin has two sides, and a prosecutor will use the side that suits him/her.
Title: Re: Court-proofing your firearm
Post by: pacapcop on September 29 2015 02:44:05 PM MDT
They still believe that in N.J. Ball ammo unless a LEO in active status.