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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on January 01 2016 02:44:24 PM MST

Title: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on January 01 2016 02:44:24 PM MST
  Is this just all catalog BS and will never make it to the outlets in the U.S.?

http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/en/product/pistol-and-revolver-ammunition/pistol-and-revolver-cartridges/products/detail/485/
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: sqlbullet on January 01 2016 03:07:01 PM MST
1160 fps from a 6" barrel. Pretty anemic stuff.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Pablo on January 01 2016 03:25:14 PM MST
This kind of grinds my cookies. I mean S&B makes decently warm ammo in other calibers. I had some .45ACP from them a few years ago that was downright toasty. But. 10mm? WTheck? Why even bother making light 40SW LONG?

Yeah I know they all do it. But at least reach for for SAAMI. Meh.....grumble.........walks away.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Wolfie on January 01 2016 06:40:49 PM MST
Lame
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on January 03 2016 01:35:11 PM MST
If it was cheap enough I'd buy it for plinking.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: JMK on April 02 2016 09:21:36 AM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on January 01 2016 02:44:24 PM MST
  Is this just all catalog BS and will never make it to the outlets in the U.S.?

http://www.sellier-bellot.cz/en/product/pistol-and-revolver-ammunition/pistol-and-revolver-cartridges/products/detail/485/

It's here, there's only one place I found it:
http://www.unammo.com/#1001

$0.38/round shipped

Anyone going to try some?  I'd love to see actual chrono results and a pull down. 
We all know the chrono can be +/- published by a bit.

JMK

Edit:
Google lists about 10 vendors that have it in their catalogs, but none have it in stock.  It appears to have only been added to catalogs as of late last year, so I imagine that it will start showing up as orders are filled.  The mfg. P/N is SB10A, FYI.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 02 2016 02:04:14 PM MDT
I will and send it for a pull-down if I can find it to order. I wonder what they rate it at?
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 02 2016 02:14:36 PM MDT
It looks like it will be $14-$16 a box. If it has a little snap it will be a go to!
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: 4949shooter on April 03 2016 06:42:44 AM MDT
Why is it: ***380.00 shipped to lower 48 states***
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: 4949shooter on April 03 2016 06:47:31 AM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on April 02 2016 02:14:36 PM MDT
It looks like it will be $14-$16 a box. If it has a little snap it will be a go to!

$19 / box with the exorbitant shipping they charge.

Though still would be a good value if they are doing 1200 fps.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 03 2016 07:47:54 AM MDT
Anyone want to split 1000?
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Pablo on April 03 2016 09:03:12 AM MDT
Did this ammo change? Is it now stouter?
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 03 2016 12:30:41 PM MDT
Did anyone ever try it and report?
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: JMK on April 03 2016 11:10:48 PM MDT
I didn't see any reports.  I can't imagine many people have it yet.

The website I linked above is the first and only place I have seen it available.  The others have added it to their catalogs but don't appear to have received their orders yet.

S&B says 355 m/s from a 150mm barrel, with a ME of 737 J. 
In English...
S&B says 1164.7 fps from a 5.91" barrel, with a ME of 543.6 ft-lbs

Let's get it tested before we give it the thumbs up/down. :)
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: 4949shooter on April 04 2016 02:23:05 PM MDT
1154 isn't bad for practice ammo at that price point.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: JMK on April 05 2016 09:37:00 AM MDT
...aaaand here it is, by the box, not the case.  At $14.41/box, too!  It was just a matter of time.  More will show up, I'm sure.

http://vizardsgunsandammo.com/sb-10a-10mm-180-fmj-50-20/

I'd buy some myself but I can't for a couple of months... but at least I have the internet. :)

Now lets get some in the hands of the munitions testing masters!
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Wolfie on April 06 2016 09:28:23 PM MDT
http://www.luckygunner.com/10mm-auto-180-grain-fmj-sellier-bellot-50

$17.75 a box
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 07 2016 04:01:52 AM MDT
I will jump on and order some tonight for testing and pull-down. They advertise 1164 FPS and if they crest 1100 it's a great buy!
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 08 2016 04:32:27 AM MDT
Lucky Gunner is nuts for shipping! $18 for two boxes! I guess I will wait until a more reasonable place has it.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: wolfsburg_de on April 08 2016 02:15:49 PM MDT
I just got some but haven't had a chance to test it yet:

(http://i.imgur.com/emtDPWz.jpg)

They came from:

http://tssoutfitters.com/shop/sb-10a-10mm-180-fmj-50-20/

... but they seem to be out of stock now. My buddy and I went in on two boxes and it came to $14.94/box plus $7.95 shipping for two or a shipped price of under 38 cents each. Here's an album showing the pulled bullet, what the powder looks like, etc:

http://imgur.com/a/cdpGH

Some math needed but it looks like 263.74 - 179.34 - 76.32 = 8.08 gr of powder.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Intercooler on April 08 2016 04:48:57 PM MDT
Pretty decent looking stuff if it has a little ooomph.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Wolfie on April 08 2016 07:19:24 PM MDT
Thats a good looking box.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on April 09 2016 08:56:28 PM MDT
I'll have to try some if I can find it.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: sqlbullet on April 11 2016 08:22:27 AM MDT
Even if it doesn't have any oomph (aka 40 S&W loads), that is a great price if the brass is decent to reload.  You can't buy components that cheap.
Title: Re: Sellier&Bellot 10mm 180gr FMJ
Post by: Pablo on April 11 2016 08:24:34 AM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on April 11 2016 08:22:27 AM MDT
Even if it doesn't have any oomph (aka 40 S&W loads), that is a great price if the brass is decent to reload.  You can't buy components that cheap.

Good point!