Just bought a box of Armscor USA and noticed they didn't feel (kick) like my older box of Armscor precision. Their website says 1,008 fps and 406ft/lbs . That means it's no longer worth the price for me and they take the crown as the weakest 10mm on the market . Heck , there are some 9mm more powerful .
When BVAC loaded it for them it was respectable. Looks like those days are over!
Really sad. In 2012 they were around 1220 ish. Really neutered and worthless now.
Thanks for the reply . I've been wondering where all these people are getting these 1150fps armscor. I noticed they have removed their fps- ft/lbs label off the box . Now we know why . When I go to ammo seek to check cheapest prices I now go straight to Sig elite's ,which usually are around $23 - $25 per 50 . SG ammo is having the best deals here lately.
I sent them a note and received one reply. Waiting for the next reply after sending info to them. If somebody has the ".40-weak" stuff, I will swap to Chronograph them and do a pull-down.
I chronographed some a couple of months ago and while I don't have my notes here in front of me I remember they clocked under 1,000 FPS for me. I think they were in the neighborhood of 950 FPS if I am remembering correctly. This was out of a stock Glock 20 gen4.
No response from them yet. It's a shame we try to teach these companies where to load real 10mm at and they back slide.
Not sure if this is related but I found that in boxes purchased last fall, "Armscor " is FMJ while "Armscor USA" is TMJ (completely encapsulated bullet). Back to back out of my Witness 4.5" the FMJ averaged 1115 fps while the TMJ was a touch spicier at 1138 fps. Out of the same pistol, Sig 180gr clocked at 1220 fps, for comparison.
Quote from: Intercooler on April 22 2016 04:24:52 AM MDT
No response from them yet. It's a shame we try to teach these companies where to load real 10mm at and they back slide.
I've shot a decent number of boxes over the last couple years; However, won't be buying
anymore of the watered down variety. These new mv's are straight up 40cal level. If I want to shoot 40cal, I'll take my 40cal to the range.
I have one box left, once thats gone it will be replaced with Sigs.