Anyone see this yet ?
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http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=COO2020XE
http://www.ffsales.com/firearms-hand-guns/55234-colt-delta-elite-10mm-ssblk-5-81-black-composite-grips-o2020xe.html
What's new about this one versus the old ones?
Trigger, sights, safety, and grip safety.
About time Colt only took 30 years :D
Looks like the slide serrations are different also.
Quote from: 01deuce on April 28 2016 07:07:21 AM MDT
Looks like the slide serrations are different also.
I missed that, you are correct.
Ramped barrel?
Ramped barrel would be the key and answer to a lot of prayers.
I would have prefered a blue or gold cup model.
If this does not have a ramped barrel, which I doubt there is no reason to upgrade.
I am gonna say with 98% certainty that no ramped barrel.
This isn't a real update by Colt. This is a large special order with some features by Lipsey's. I really, really doubt that Lipseys convinced them to alter frames.
They could at least changed to a barrel with more case support, like Kart.
Any real way of finding out short of buying one?
It is listed on several sites so if it's a Lipsey's exclusive then that's fine, but I haven't seen it advertised as such yet.
I agree it most likely doesn't have a ramped barrel, but the cost to customize one dropped dramatically when you consider you don't have to have the dovetails cut or a beaver tail safety fit like the older model. Having a ramped barrel added is the only thing I couldn't do myself now to have a delta how I want it.
I've been wanting one, but even someone with as little knowledge as I am left scratching my head as to why Colt would not fully address the case support concern.
But then again Colt appears to sell as many of these as they make.
Colt is riding on name recognition. Their guns are not better made, or even as well made in most cases, as their price competitors.
Colt, or any manufacturer, won't fix a problem they don't recognize as a problem, whether or not the problem actually exists. The Colt pistols fire factory ammo just fine, consistently and reliably. Problems may arise with handloads and overpressure boutique ammo. Colt firearms, along with every other brand name I'm aware of, come with the same disclaimer, clearly stating the warranty will not be honored if other than the correct caliber factory ammo is used. Essentially, there's nothing to fix. If you don't like a pistol, for any reason, no one is under any obligation to buy it. They don't appear to be hurting for business.
I for one don't have ONE single problem with my Colt Delta Elite and I mean NONE!! And I shoot 180g. loads that are 1200 fps and loads that are north of 1300 fps and that includes Underwood and my reloads with 800X with no signs of pressure on the spent casing. I also shoot Underwood 155 gr fmj and that has hit over 1500 fps from my Colt, but I have found about 6 casing that had the smiley faces on them and that's it.
My point is the Colt will handle 99% of the 10mm stuff out there !! My God if you need to push a 180gr faster then 1340 fps or a 155 Gr past 1500 fps :o then get a .41 mag or a TC in 10mm or a wheel gun. I own both a fully ramp Kimber and my Colt Delta and I can't see any difference in the way my brass looks.
And that's my take on it, and for the record when I go out shooting I will grab my Colt more often then my Kimber.
Please don't take my previous remarks about Colt as an indication that I think there is anything wrong with their guns. I miss my Delta Elite, wish I had never sold it.
And I would not pass on a deal on another one. I would very much enjoy having one in my arsenal again.
But, part of what you are paying for is the name on the side. I would like to think there was a time when the name Colt really meant something. But I don't think that is true anymore.
I just sold my Kimber 10mm with the rail so this new Delta is going to be very tempting. The Kimber is hard to beat - ramped barrel, front strap checkering, grip safety, and night sights. There was nothing wrong with mine, just should have skipped the rail. Going with 14 gt-500's observations with his Delta sounds like it should be good to go.
I just got my Kimber Eclipse back after they had it for 6+weeks and I put about a little over 100rds through it after I got it back, and I can say that I do think they fixed all the problems that I had, however yesterday when I was taking it apart after shooting I noticed that right above the trigger on the right hand side were it says Kimber and some numbers there is 4 light scratches in the gun that weren't there before !! It looks like it could have been caused buy putting the gun in a vise of some sort. So now what do I call Kimber back up and send the gun in for another 6 weeks or live with it. P.S there is 5 of them and there is no way that I done that there are all so uniform.
Kimber scratched my Eclipse when I sent it in. It was a pain to get them to fix it. They redid the slide but put a small idiot scratch that can only be seen when the slide was locked back. I did not bother to send it in a 3rd time because the gun ran great and everything else was perfect.
Tell Kimber what happened and let them know you took pictures of the gun BEFORE you sent it in.
If you have no proof they will not entertain the complaint.
The Eclipse is a very beautiful gun that scratches up easily, mine is more of a safe queen than a shooter. I fire my Razorback and Delta way more.
Do you think I should even attempt to maybe try and polish them out with something like toothpaste?? I sure hate to send the pistol back in since it does work now and something else could happen to it. It really pisses me off!!
I don't think you can buff it out. Its a special finish.
Well, I just took my new Delta Elite out on her maiden voyage. Standard model, not the Lipsey's version. I am happy but also not so happy. I had a box of Remington 180gr TC rounds as a first try. I then shot two lots of 50 rounds I reloaded with virgin Starline brass, Rainier 180 TC bullets, 50@ 8.5gr Longshot and then 50@9.0gr Longshot. Had never fired a 10mm before. Read much about the unsupported chamber. My findings:
1. All rounds fired perfectly, no signs of pressure, and no bulges in brass from the unsupported chamber in the Remington or 8.5gr loads with Longshot. 9.0gr Longshot cases did show a slight bulge at the web but not so much that it is questionable to reload. Felt recoil did increase as I shot the reloads after factory Remington. Wish I had a chronograph.
2. Trigger was great, I was smiling the whole time, loved it, and now the 10mm is a cartridge I will fall in love with.
3. Beavertail sucked. Cut my thumb web up in first 15 shots. Need to get a full beavertail fitted. Accuracy was great first 100 rounds, then I think the added recoil and maceration of my right web ruined my grouping.
4. Ejection port not flared. The edge of the ejection port creased every single casing that ejected, 1/2 down the side of the casing, and flung it very far forward and 20' to the right. Why is an $1100 Colt pistol not flared? I didn't notice or think of it when I bought her. Just food for thought to those contemplating one. BUT the brass is so badly creased I doubt I will attempt to reload any until I get the port flared properly.
5. The magazines all functioned flawlessly as did the Colt. The sights are OK, but would like Novak or Heinie style. And a skeletonized trigger. Had I know about the Lipsey's version I would have gotten that.
In the end I need a port flaring job, and a full sized beavertail. Might as well get sights added while in the shop. Maybe even a bead blasted finish. Another $800. Oh well, I still like the Colt and will keep her, but just wish Colt would throw in a couple extras if they are charging that price. Like a Harley, always going to cost you something when you need to improve it or maintain it! Just my 2 cents.
Wow mine throws the brass to the right and between my shooting hand and shoulder, and it will send them all of 20 ft. But no damage brass what so ever. And I'm with you all the way about Colt should have put a beavertail grip safety, as mine also cut me up a little bit yesterday shooting some stout loads and it hurts and causes bad shooting habits. And they should have put on better sights and a target trigger, but at the end of the day I still like mine :) P.S you might want to send the gun back to Colt because of the damage brass issues.
Plenty of guys here will take that brass if you are just going to six it. It may split earlier but I have no problem with a crease.
These are now available. I have one inbound!
When is it scheduled to arrive? Let us know if the barrel has changed, and of course pics are required.
https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=586377
This is being discussed over on the 1911 forum. I'm interested.
Well, Brent just replied to the other forum thread - no barrel change but ejection port is lowered and flared. Not what we wanted to hear.
Quote from: drnls on May 13 2016 08:28:41 AM MDT
When is it scheduled to arrive? Let us know if the barrel has changed, and of course pics are required.
Should be at my dealers Tue or Wed and hopefully I can pick it up Wed or Thursday before work.
Available here:
http://tsswarehouse.com/shop/colt-delta-elite-10mm-fs-8-sh-stainless-steel-black-syn-colt-02020xe/
Picked it up on the way to work this morning!
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Looks good. Should have skipped work. Give us a detailed report on fit and how that barrel looks.
She's a beaut!
01deuce, on your new Delta do they still have the notch on the frame above the grip panel???
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I have had it apart several times and I honestly don't know. My first experience with a delta and I didn't know they were different. I will look tonight.what are your grips ? I'm on a grip quest and those are nice.
Here is an update and small review I posted on 1911 forum as well.
I put in a Harrison ignition set a C&S ambi-safety and what I'm renaming a tri-delta trigger. It actually had a pretty nice factory trigger pull, but I had the parts for another gun that is going in another direction. Went out and ran 3 magazines of Sig 180gr fmj before heading out the door this morning. It is pretty tight for a factory Colt. It ran flawlessly and shot tight groups.
I will be changing the grips as soon as I can find medallions or decide to knock the ones out of the factory grips.
Here is a little better picture.
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And
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The frame is cut the same as your Delta in the picture.
Thanks, just checking to see if that had changed...it is not my gun, but while I was studying what was done to prevent the small crack from developing, I collected the picture for reference.
I fit night sights this morning and ran some Underwood 165gr GD & buffalo bore 180gr jhp. Had a failure to go into battery once each. Looks like polishing the feed ramp might fix that. Is that common with Delta's and hollow points?
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I had the same issue with mine were the case edge meets the bullet hanging on the feed ramp. After 500 rds it fixed itself. These 1911's need a break in period. I still have a hanger from time to time though. I never thought of using polishing compound. I may polish it next cleaning . I have a tube of knife blade polishing compound that is good stuff .
Nice looking Delta 01deuce. I may just have to pick one up if I get the chance. I have two Deltas. A older blued and a newer stainless. No problems what so ever with factory stuff( including several hollow points) and with reloads that I tweaked for them. The reloads do take some tuning. I have run 180's anywhere from 1150 up close to 1300 fps with no brass issues. For my reloads I use Starline brass. I have read so much negative about the Deltas over the years. Just about all of it was a friend of theirs or something someone told them or they read it somewhere. I have also tried to get actual first hand pics of broken, cracked and just plain worn out guns that so many talk about. Have seen one. It was a bad barrel from the factory. The first guns did crack around the window until they cut it out. I have seen those pics many times. Usually the same old pic. I have seen one that bulged brass at higher end loads. He actually sent it to Colt and they repaired it. I think they are great guns. Enjoy your Delta. I enjoy mine.
Nice gun. I've fed my Delta almost an exclusive diet of HP reloads (years ago Wideners had an awesome deal on Nosler HP's, I'm down to my last 1K) and have not had any failures to feed, or anything else fail. Very reliable 1911, I just don't use it for the hot 10mm loads as there are other choices with a better supported casehead.
It used to look sort of old fashioned next to the Combat Elite on Colt's website. Now it looks like it belongs.
Now with new grips and colt ambi-safety.
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Very nice.
Very nice Delta Elite :) Kind of wished that I would have held off buying mine in Dec but I still like mine alot and it's a great shooter, even with very warm loads. And it still runs better then my Kimber!!
Question about rear (and front too) sights:
Does new CDE has tritium sights?
Or it just new-fashioned sights with white dots!
Sights are not tritium.
Quote from: 01deuce on April 28 2016 04:25:09 AM MDT
Anyone see this yet ?
(http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q637/boesep01/2ymu252_zpslyabw3yp.jpg) (http://s1167.photobucket.com/user/boesep01/media/2ymu252_zpslyabw3yp.jpg.html)
http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=COO2020XE
http://www.ffsales.com/firearms-hand-guns/55234-colt-delta-elite-10mm-ssblk-5-81-black-composite-grips-o2020xe.html
I've not only seen it but I carry one every day. ;D
So far I have about 1700 rounds through it and it runs fine.
I just picked one up yesterday. Slide to frame fit is tight. No ramped barrel
In 2017. Although the gun was probably made in 2016 due to the traditional roll marks. I'm very pleased.
I have a new 2016 DE. Everyone needs to stop worrying about the non-ramped barrel. I've been shooting Underwood 165gr thru 200gr through my DE and the brass looks better that what comes out of my Glock 20 with KKM barrel and 22lb spring. About 300rds of Underwood ammo total. The brass show no signs of excessive pressure at all. I spoke to Kevin at Underwood and he said all of their loadings are safe for the DE now. They changed their powder blends. If you need more power than Underwood you should consider a .44 magnum. I keep Underwood 180gr Gold Dots in my DE for self defense and plink with the S&B and Armscor for about $0.28 a round. The new DE is a well made 1911, colt's done a nice job, just with they were Novak night sight. Will be swapping in a set.
I agree, this non ramp barrel thing along with the frames cracking on the older Deltas is really being over played ::) The Colt Delta Elite is as fine of a 10mm 1911 that is very hard to beat at it's price!! as a matter of fact I don't think you can beat it @ it's price point.