A closer look at the findings of the Associated Press-GfK poll:
A new poll shows that Americans generally support some of the most often-proposed limits on gun ownership, including universal background checks and banning semi-automatic weapons such as the AR-15.
Yet behind that support are deep divisions based on political party, geography, race and gender. The support for tighter gun laws also has clear limits. Americans broadly oppose a mandatory gun buyback program, do not want to ban handguns and do not believe gun manufacturers should be held liable when their products are later used in a crime.
A closer look at the findings of the Associated Press-GfK poll:
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WIDE SUPPORT FOR CHANGES
Nearly two-thirds of Americans say they believe the nation's gun laws should be stricter. They are more likely to say Congress should set gun laws rather than state and local governments, which are passing a patchwork of different rules.
Two changes that have been recently blocked in Congress enjoy the broadest support, each with 73 percent in favor and 10 percent opposed. The first would require private sellers doing business at gun shows and over the internet to conduct background checks on buyers. The second would ban individuals who are on the government's terrorism watch list from purchasing guns, even if they have not been convicted of crimes.
Proposals to reinstate a ban on semi-automatic weapons and to ban high-capacity magazines were favored by more than half of respondents and opposed by a quarter of them.
Most favor making adults criminally liable if their guns are accessed by children and are used to harm themselves or someone else. Americans are also more likely to favor than oppose allowing the U.S. Centers for Disease Control to study gun violence.
The support for stricter gun laws appears to be driven, at least in part, by personal safety worries. Roughly 6 in 10 Americans are at least moderately concerned that they or members of their families might be victims of gun violence.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Marbury v Madison
"A Law repugnant to the Constitution is void."
Go ahead and try to infringe. More than these two say they CANNOT and you get to face me in front of a jury if you try to infringe.
Greg
Courts last month affirmed the NYS SAFE Act passed by both parties.
It banned assault style weapons, and it pissed me off.
Rights will never be taken away, it will just cost more and most likely create a insurance requirement.
Look what "void" means in a legal dictionary.
I have a right to ignore a law that doesn't exist.
Greg
I'd love to see any gun related poll taken at the dem convention this week. That would carry as much credibility as the ones you post about. Why? Well, most gun people I know lie on any poll that has to do with guns. Those polls are inherently inaccurate and the not worth the paper it's printed on. How about we poll the NRA members or members of gun clubs across America for their views. You can then quote those numbers and they will have the same accuracy as the numbers you consistently spew out on these boards. Save the bandwidth. We are not interested in any poll you tell us about. You have proven to be a shill for Hillary and nothing you post has any credibility. Have fun at your convention this week. Say hi to Hillary for us. I bet Feinstein and Soros will be there as well with Bloomberg sitting in his high chair so he can see over the others.
Less than 10% of gun owners are NRA members. Of those that are NRA members a vast majority want background checks.
The GOP needs to affirm Garland now, after November all bets are off.
Making up stuff now, I see.
Please link us to this NRA poll you speak of.
To be valid, it has to originate from the NRA, not Huffington Post or Bloomberg News.
We have learned that just because you say something doesn't make it true.
Your reputation precedes your words.
Of course larry i am making stuff up just like a Republican.
So sad of the lack of perspective here outside of firearms.
The most recent national poll of NRA members was done in January 2013 by Johns Hopkins University, found that 73.7 percent of the members supported requiring background checks for all gun sales.
Pretty consistent polling.
More than 73% of the members on this forum are sick of Dem talking points being regurgitated on this board.
Only a few more months of this drivel to go.
Greg
Geeman you don't think it's smart to know what the other side is doing? I go to Drudge and National Review as much as Huffington Post. Also the NRA can do its own poll to squash this nonsense, why have they not? Hmmmmmmmmm
To me, the "other side" is the political elite and others that some how believe they control me. Either I'm controlled, or I am free. Both cannot be true.
Tell me, am I controlled (slave) or am I free?
No, I couldn't give a rip what they think. Have an issue with me, sue me.
Greg
Part of winning is itel and knowing what the attack is going to be. Unless you are off the grid and live off the land you are a slave, the only difference if your a outside slave or a inside one.
Quote from: Wolfie on July 23 2016 08:21:25 PM MDT
The most recent national poll of NRA members was done in January 2013 by Johns Hopkins University, found that 73.7 percent of the members supported requiring background checks for all gun sales.
Pretty consistent polling.
You can get any answer you want on a poll by the way the question is phrased.
ie.
"If violent crimes would be reduced, would you be in favor of requiring background checks on all gun sales?"
What answer would you get? Without seeing the actual wording, polls are worthless in my opinion. The NRA is guilty also I am sure.
Background checks would reduce violent crime. When cops in NYC get killed they trace the guns back to the same SC gun shop who sells the guns, and then the guy who bought the guns sells them to unknown people who then sell them to cop killers.
When the cops trace the guns, the original purchaser says I did nothing wrong.
The NRA can do a poll anytime, they won't as they know it will bode bad for them.
Quote from: Wolfie on July 24 2016 08:42:44 AM MDT
Background checks would reduce violent crime. When cops in NYC get killed they trace the guns back to the same SC gun shop who sells the guns, and then the guy who bought the guns sells them to unknown people who then sell them to cop killers.
When the cops trace the guns, the original purchaser says I did nothing wrong.
The NRA can do a poll anytime, they won't as they know it will bode bad for them.
The people that are doing this are still not going to follow the law, that has been proven time and again.
When background checks fail to solve any problems, registration is the answer. When registration fails, confiscation is the answer.
Europe with their strict gun control seems to still have problems.
Legally owned guns are not the problem.
This thread like others is getting to the point of personal jabs and attacks. This is not the way we want things on this forum and it can detract from the actual topic. But some of these topics are being posted with the intent of stirring up personalities, which is sad...while I am here on this topic I put my short take of things related to the topic of gun laws.
The current corrupt, overreaching, big, greedy government, gone wild for power and control already have enacted too many Gun Laws! Their wanting even more restrictions, are being seen as bureaucratic steps of registration and toward confiscation. This current administration turning criminals and terrorist loose, back out to the streets and into the world, while wanting disarmament of its citizens is being seen as a socialist/communist plotted takeover from within.
The fact will forever remain that there are people that have taken up criminal mindsets, terrorist mindsets, or those with problematic physiological issues and they will use whatever means necessary to carry out their attack. Hammers, guns, knives, swords, tainted or poisoned items (food/water), arson (initially or for cover up), explosives and even vehicles.
The criminal, may have once been able to buy a firearm prior to carrying out an action where felony conviction removes that right, however many get their firearms via burglaries or purchased from other criminals, in which cases the firearms are not legal for them to posses.
Terrorist individuals or even groups are an identity all their own and are shaped by an ideology response. Some of these are radicalized through various political factions, so called religious groups like Islam and some are just plain assholes wanting attention through stirred up hate crimes including outright murder of individuals or larger groups.
Many see the NRA as a terrorist group, but the difference being 99.9% are law abiding citizens. If it is so be it the NRA has been here organised for 145 years.(November 17, 1871) Of those they understand that the world is a changing place and the Second Amendment is there for a reason. Self protection in the event of personal attacks. As well as group threats or attacks by our very own corrupt government or a coup takeover using militarized forces (such as UN forces) including the radicalized inside attacks of what they are calling "refugees", may need to be ousted by force some day!
These "refugees" are mostly all younger males and that in and of itself is a threat to our families and communities. Their resettlement is abusing monies that were for seniors and veterans benefits and it is not sitting well with anyone that has worked for this and being shorted!
The election process will be looked at closely considering all the controversies that are clouding this particular election. The system has been proved to be corrupt on many levels from the top, down to and across the isle of congress, throughout the halls of justice lately... Depending on the outcome of this election, we may see a renewed United States of America and an American Spirit or an all out civil war in the making! God Bless American! If he doesn't nobody else will!
My intent is to stir debate, it keeps the site lively when it's slow. This post is about a poll about guns. If we cannot discuss certain things, ban them and let's move on. Just put a disclaimer in, that we cannot say anything bad about guns or the NRA, we can only hate against liberals.
Make it clear and I will play by the rules.
Quote from: Wolfie on July 24 2016 02:15:13 PM MDT
My intent is to stir debate, it keeps the site lively when it's slow.
B f'ing S!!!
I'm not the only one that sees through the S-stirring.
Just wish this site had an ignore option.
Yet you read and comment CZ.
Psst outside of NYC its easier to get a gun permit in NYS and it last a lifetime.
Quote from: Wolfie on July 24 2016 04:32:01 PM MDT
Yet you read and comment CZ.
Consider this my last to your threads. ;)
QuotePsst outside of NYC its easier to get a gun permit in NYS and it last a lifetime.
hmmmm, really?
Does that mean that my wife can ignore the expiration date on hers since you said it lasts a lifetime?
I can say wolfie said so, so it must be the truth, right?
Or are you just trying to stir up more discussions with lies or half-truths?
Just wondering.....
yes really I have its lifetime have not paid anything since I got it in 1988
keep watching FOX larry
* NRA did a scientific survey of about 1,000 members and found that 5% of its members support the universal registry legislation.
* And GOA did a non-scientific poll of its members. After nearly 25,000 gun owners responded, GOA's survey found that only 4% of its members supported "universal background checks."
https://www.gunowners.org/04052013congress.htm
Goodbye troll.
A scientific survey?
What does that mean?
Who did it. The other 2 polls were from reputable pollsters.
Had enough of this guy. Myself and the staff have given him plenty of leeway to give his opinion but I've received too many complaints from members here that said they won't come back because of him.
We support the 2nd amendment. He obviously does not. His constant attacks on Republican candidates and support of anti-gun politicians was unnecessary. He didn't offer up any 10mm knowledge here, and 99% of his posts were in the politics section.
He is banned. Permanent.
Good riddance.
:D :D :D
After reading a number of his posts and fighting the urge to respond to his ridiculous comments I'm ultimately happy I didn't allow his comments to sucker me into responding. Stirring debate is one thing being an "Agitator" is another. Great outcome for all here. ;D
Quote from: Patriot on July 24 2016 07:32:40 PM MDT
Had enough of this guy. Myself and the staff have given him plenty of leeway to give his opinion but I've received too many complaints from members here that said they won't come back because of him.
We support the 2nd amendment. He obviously does not. His constant attacks on Republican candidates and support of anti-gun politicians was unnecessary. He didn't offer up any 10mm knowledge here, and 99% of his posts were in the politics section.
He is banned. Permanent.
Good riddance.
Thank You!
Agree.
Thank you.
Quote from: Patriot on July 24 2016 07:32:40 PM MDT
Had enough of this guy. Myself and the staff have given him plenty of leeway to give his opinion but I've received too many complaints from members here that said they won't come back because of him.
We support the 2nd amendment. He obviously does not. His constant attacks on Republican candidates and support of anti-gun politicians was unnecessary. He didn't offer up any 10mm knowledge here, and 99% of his posts were in the politics section.
He is banned. Permanent.
Good riddance.
You are da greatest!!
Thx! ;)