My Dillon 10mm dies should arrive this Friday and now I have to pick a powder. Currently watching the Favorite Powder thread that was started yesterday, along with all of the other great information in this forum. Going to be shooting 180gr plated bullets thru 4.6" barrel G20 and was originally going to go with AA#9, but not sure at the moment.
What other, if any, pistol powder do you have on hand?
For your 180 grain bullets:
If Blue Dot is Used 10.4 grains will be some good fun loads to develop proficiency.
Power Pistol or BE-86 will also work well and meter better.
BE-86 8.4 grains
PP 8.6 grains
The powder that I currently have on hand is Vectan Nobel Ba-9. I have thought about using it and they do have some limited data for this powder in the 10mm.
Yes, I have looked over the Vectan data for Ba-9 with 6.4 grains being the upper max @ 1089 fps.
I haven't had the chance to work with the Vectan powders so I can't offer much advice.
I am liking what I get from AA9 and Long Shot. I want to try Blue Dot. Does Blue Dot meter well?
Yes Blue Dot is a cut flake powder, it meters fairly well from my RCBS UniFlow. But I still I hand weigh all of my loads while working near the upper limits. ::)
blue dot meters nicely...A #9 is a Dream!! :D
I headed out to the local reloading supply store today with the intention of buying a pound of AA#9, but we discussed and he persuaded me on a pound of WSF. I realize that I ask for help from the forum and I did a 180 degree. I will let everyone know how it works out, both the good and the bad. I also picked up some Berry's .40 180 Gr Round Shoulder bullets and CCI 300 primers.
WSF is a faster burning powder for the 10mm coarse flattened powder...pressure rises before the bullets get a good head of steam as compared to other powders. Good luck!
I'm committed to giving it a try, worst case scenario it will become fertilizer. :)
WSF is probably too fast for anything above FBI or plinking loads -- from Hodgdon's site (http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/):
10mm Auto
Case: Winchester Twist: 1:16" Primer: Winchester LP, Large Pistol Barrel Length: 5" Trim Length: .987"
Winchester WSF Bullet dia:.400" COL:1.260"
140 GR. BAR TAC-XP
Starting Loads Maximum Loads
Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
6.6 1,162 27,800 PSI 7.5 1,284 35,300 PSI
155 GR. HDY XTP
Starting Loads Maximum Loads
Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
6.8 1,100 23,000 PSI 8.4 1,320 35,600 PSI
180 GR. SIE JHC
Starting Loads Maximum Loads
Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
5.7 950 25,000 PSI 7.1 1,150 35,600 PSI
200 GR. HDY FMJ
Starting Loads Maximum Loads
Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
5.2 880 26,200 PSI 6.2 1,020 35,600 PSI
Quote from: The_Shadow on April 05 2017 06:27:20 PM MDT
Yes, I have looked over the Vectan data for Ba-9 with 6.4 grains being the upper max @ 1089 fps.
I haven't had the chance to work with the Vectan powders so I can't offer much advice.
Not sure where Nobel gets their numbers, but they're bogus.
Ba-9 w/ 165's at "minimal" velocities showed flattened primers and light smiles.
Not a good fit.
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I will have to give the WSF a try, but hindsight being 20/20 I probably should of stuck to my original intent of AA#9, as others in this site were recommending.
As for the Vectan Ba-9, it is my go to powder for my 9mm loads and I do agree that their load data is not the best. I had to start low and work up to the load that works really good with the 125gr The Blue Bullet.
Who likes BE-86 ?
Quote from: Bat Rastard on April 08 2017 03:50:05 PM MDT
Who likes BE-86 ?
BE-86
seems to be close to PP, but without the velocity.
Who likes V V 3N38 and/or 3N37 for a lighter bullet, besides me?
Quote from: The Earl o Sammich on April 08 2017 07:25:34 PM MDT
Who likes V V 3N38 and/or 3N37 for a lighter bullet, besides me?
Both work pretty nice with 155's :)
Purchased a Redding passthru die and ran all of my brass thru it last night. Had one piece of brass that I scrapped since it had a smile in it. Hope to get some test rounds loaded up this evening to see how the WSF is going to work.
CurtisM, Sounds great! Yes yet another advantage of Pass-Through sizing as it gives another inspection opportunity! You should be fine using the book loadings from Hodgdon with the WSF.
If you are new to reloading, be sure you are reading you scale correctly. Having check weights can help or having a second scale to verify against each other is nice. Good luck!
Thanks The_Shadow for the feedback. I ran just over 10,000 rounds through my Dillon in the last 12 months, but all were 9mm. Starting out cautiously with the 10.
Quote from: Bat Rastard on April 08 2017 03:50:05 PM MDT
Who likes BE-86 ?
Its a good 10mm powder.
I stepped up loadings until I was around the level of Underwood 180g. The gun was a stock Glock 20 (Gen4) and there were no smiles, but standard deviation was increasing with every tenth of a grain added to the loads. I believe this was reaching the limits of the stock spring which translated to reduced uniformity.
The thread is...
http://10mm-firearms.com/reloading-10mm-ammo/be86-180g-xtreme-g20-step-up-loads/ (http://10mm-firearms.com/reloading-10mm-ammo/be86-180g-xtreme-g20-step-up-loads/)
Greg
I agree with that statement. I have gotten PP (one of my favorites) velocity out of BE-86.