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Firearms => 10mm revolvers => Topic started by: DR505 on November 25 2012 07:18:42 PM MST

Title: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on November 25 2012 07:18:42 PM MST
I had an old .40 S&W Vaquero lying around gathering dust, so I sent it off to Alan Harton of Houston, TX, for a conversion to 10mm and addition of S&W J-Frame sights.  What do you think?  Now I need to load up some good ammo!

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Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Patriot on November 25 2012 07:21:12 PM MST
Man, that would be a great hiking gun for bear defense.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on November 25 2012 07:29:01 PM MST
Exactly my thoughts...it will be a companion on my elk hunts.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: REDLINE on November 25 2012 07:32:49 PM MST
Yep, that's pretty sweet!
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Intercooler on November 25 2012 07:34:26 PM MST
Very neat! What was involved to convert it and wonder why they didn't rebadge it? Costly?
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on November 25 2012 09:56:17 PM MST
Just bore out the cylinder from .40 to 10mm, cut channel for rear adjustable sight, weld/solder on base plate for pinned in front sight, and bead blast the shiny stainless to matte.  Cost was ~ $400.00 for the whole works.  Mr. Harton is quite the gunsmith with a good reputation.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Intercooler on November 25 2012 10:14:27 PM MST
Still takes Moon clips right?
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: sqlbullet on November 26 2012 08:38:44 AM MST
Single action gate load = no moon clips.  Load 'em one at a time.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: EdMc on November 26 2012 10:13:11 AM MST
That's purdy, DR........I didn't know Ruger ever made a SA in 40 cal. Seems there's a lot I don't know... ;D
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on November 26 2012 09:28:01 PM MST
It originally started off as a 150th Anniversary Edition for the San Diego County Sheriff's Department back in 2000.  I picked up a "blemished" model (the lettering was off) for $250.00 and used it a few times.  The .40 S&W cartridge leaves me underwhelmed, especially in such a large frame, so I chucked it in the safe.  Earlier this year I thought I'd try a conversion.  I contacted Hamilton Bowen, Cylinder and Slide, and several others who were either too busy or too pricey.  Alan Harton was fast, reasonable, and very good!  It shoots like a dream.  Now I'm looking to load up some 200-220 grain hard cast for shooting feral pigs.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: 505Gibbs on November 30 2012 06:38:22 AM MST
A VERY nice job and a great choice! Should be a blast[literally] to shoot. :)
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Papajohn on November 30 2012 11:43:22 PM MST
I remember seeing those when they came out and I considered getting one, but I'm just not a single-action guy.  IIRC it came with dual cylinders in 40S&W and 38/40.  Neat idea having it reamed out!
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: sgh on December 01 2012 12:36:11 PM MST

Always wanted to do that when I was more in funds but never found a Vaquero .40 at a reasonable price.  I will have to be happy with the Buckeyes.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on December 05 2012 01:03:49 PM MST
Quote from: Papajohn on November 30 2012 11:43:22 PM MST
I remember seeing those when they came out and I considered getting one, but I'm just not a single-action guy.  IIRC it came with dual cylinders in 40S&W and 38/40.  Neat idea having it reamed out!

This one only came in .40 S&W.  I toyed with the idea of getting a spare cylinder for 10mm and one for 38/40.  For a 38/40 cylinder, Cylinder and Slide said I'd have to re-barrel it as the dimensions between 38/40 and 10mm were too great. ???  I called Ruger, to see if they had a conversion cylinder...since mine was only made in .40, they said NO.

I figured that the revolver only cost me $250 brand spanking new, so I wasn't out much if the conversion didn't go well.  It works great though!  I've not gotten any bullets to reload yet, but the Buffalo Bore Heavy 10 mm in 180 grain shoots nice, and with authority.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Harleycolt on December 05 2012 11:36:08 PM MST
It would be nice to find one!
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DM1906 on December 06 2012 12:09:27 AM MST
Quote from: DR505 on December 05 2012 01:03:49 PM MST
Quote from: Papajohn on November 30 2012 11:43:22 PM MST
I remember seeing those when they came out and I considered getting one, but I'm just not a single-action guy.  IIRC it came with dual cylinders in 40S&W and 38/40.  Neat idea having it reamed out!

This one only came in .40 S&W.  I toyed with the idea of getting a spare cylinder for 10mm and one for 38/40.  For a 38/40 cylinder, Cylinder and Slide said I'd have to re-barrel it as the dimensions between 38/40 and 10mm were too great. ???  I called Ruger, to see if they had a conversion cylinder...since mine was only made in .40, they said NO.

I figured that the revolver only cost me $250 brand spanking new, so I wasn't out much if the conversion didn't go well.  It works great though!  I've not gotten any bullets to reload yet, but the Buffalo Bore Heavy 10 mm in 180 grain shoots nice, and with authority.

The only real concern with a .38-40 Vaquero conversion would be the cylinder diameter, but only if using ammo (handloads) above original.  The Buckeye Special is a Super Blackhawk frame/cylinder, so no problem pushing pressures up to .44 Mag (Been there.  Do that).  I'm not familiar with the Vaquero .40, so can't say.  If the numbers match, you could have an extra cylinder made in .40 S&W (not cheap, but not bad), and ream it to .38-40.  The original .38-40 cartridge is only rated to 14K PSI (ANSI/SAAMI).  Less than .38 Spl.  The only concern should be the cylinder length, diameter, and that it's a 6-shooter (cylinder latch relief weakness with small cylinder diameters).
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on December 06 2012 01:17:44 PM MST
This Vaquero is the older model...there is a huge distance between charge-holes in the cylinder.  It is built on the .44 Magnum frame.  I also have one in .45 Colt that can be loaded hot according to the various manuals I have.  The New Vaquero's have a MUCH smaller frame and the .45 Colt must be kept to SAAMI pressure limits.
Title: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: OnTheFrontLines on December 10 2012 11:39:40 PM MST
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Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Smee78 on January 01 2013 07:49:32 AM MST
I am green with envy, that is a awsome piece, I would love to do that! Talk about a great looking gun, it looks perfect to me. I saw one of these once in the wild and I passed on it because I was not into 40 anymore and did not think a conversion into something like this would have such a great price. Congrats on your super new toy.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Ronin on April 09 2013 05:36:11 AM MDT
In case anyone is interested,  Enck's Gun Barn (http://encksgunbarn.com/) in Newmanstown, PA had four Vaqueros in 38/40 with the .40 S&W cylinder as of last Friday.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: RRMan03 on April 26 2013 09:58:38 PM MDT
What were they asking for the 38-40/40SW?
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Ronin on May 01 2013 05:05:51 AM MDT
$600 each.  I don't know if they still have them.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: gandog56 on May 02 2013 07:08:02 PM MDT
Underwood has fresh new 200 grain ammo. Sort of uberammo. At least they did earlier today. But they go fast!

http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto200grainxtpjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx (http://www.underwoodammo.com/10mmauto200grainxtpjacketedhollowpointboxof50.aspx)
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: 475/480 on July 18 2013 09:49:18 AM MDT
Alan Harton is one of the very best gunsmiths. His work is exeptional and he just happens to live right down the street from me, that gets expensive ;D.


Sean
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: MCQUADE on July 18 2013 07:12:23 PM MDT
I agree, Alan is a top notch smith. That Vaquero is one sweet piece of iron.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: Hunter on July 18 2013 11:54:26 PM MDT
I am not trying to take away from how cool this revolver is but I really dig the photographs.
Nice job on the revolver and photographs.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: dakota1911 on July 29 2014 03:02:15 PM MDT
Nice.  I forgot they even made that guy.  Something else to add to my mental list of 200 or so used guns I look for in gunstores.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: DR505 on September 07 2014 10:29:20 PM MDT
Quote from: dakota1911 on July 29 2014 03:02:15 PM MDT
Nice.  I forgot they even made that guy.  Something else to add to my mental list of 200 or so used guns I look for in gunstores.

A couple of months ago there was a guy asking $5,000 Buy It Now for consecutive numbered .40 S&W Vaqueros.  I don't know if they sold, but the last bid I saw of $1800 didn't make reserve.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: gandog56 on September 08 2014 06:35:22 AM MDT
I would prefer a longer barrel. But I also probably would not pass one up, either.
Title: Re: New 10mm Vaquero
Post by: chriso on July 08 2015 12:29:43 AM MDT
Ill  be looking for one!