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Firearms => 10mm semi-auto handguns => Topic started by: 01deuce on August 05 2017 08:27:25 AM MDT

Title: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on August 05 2017 08:27:25 AM MDT
Anyone  have any hands on  experience  with the current batch of Match Extremes? I have seen pictures  only and some have black triggers and some silver. Some have ports in the slide and some don't. Any experience  with the durability  of the ceramic coating on the extremes?
  I had been thinking  of a hunter  model and put a Match Extreme 10mm on layaway  at Buds instead. From what I have seen the 6 inch match in 10mm only seem to pop up every couple years so I ordered one sight unseen before  they are gone again.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on August 05 2017 09:25:13 AM MDT
To be honest, my first thought is you could do an awful lot of custom work on a Hunter for $700.

I am excited to hear a range report when you get it though.  Witness guns tend to be a great value proposition in every price category.  If that is true on this one, then you will have the equivalent of a $3500 1911.  Should be a very nice shooting gun.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on August 05 2017 10:18:25 AM MDT
Believe me I thought  the same thing and I will make changes to it also. (Adding even More $) I would  have on the hunter also though . I guess it just boiled down to wanting something  a little  different that you don't see very often.
 
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on August 08 2017 12:16:23 PM MDT
That.

And...

Every $1 you put into the Hunter is a dollar in a 1100 gun.  Every $1 into the Elite Match Extreme is a dollar in a $1800 gun.  Because it is both a little different and a nicer gun to start, you are more likely to recoup a higher percentage of your upgrades.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on August 08 2017 03:58:54 PM MDT
I made my own version out of a Hunter and like it better  ;D
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on August 30 2017 09:39:10 AM MDT
I won't be able to go pick it up until  friday, but here's  a picture  my dealer sent me of it. The website  shows it with a silver trigger, but it came with a black trigger.



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Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on August 30 2017 05:04:12 PM MDT
I think the frame is more of a gray from what I have seen and the slide has lightening cuts on the top. None of those features I cared for and the magazine base-pad is squared.


I went custom with a better chrome job than factory and custom base pads. It turned out really nice!
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/10945608_824023074302393_8356293942358962574_n.jpg?oh=6e187b8ce78c767f3c440d03f6d2523d&oe=5A5EC04B)
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on August 30 2017 05:05:57 PM MDT
That Xtreme trigger looks cool!
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on August 30 2017 06:22:42 PM MDT
Only the 9mm has the slide cuts. It will be interesting to see how durable the finish is. EAA told me the "industrial ceramic coating " is much better than cerakote. Most likely very similar. And yes the frame is definitely  a fairly dark  gray.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on August 30 2017 08:55:25 PM MDT
As long it isn't the "Wonder" finish.  I think it means "I wonder why they call this a protective finish.

On the plus side of the Wonder finish, I now know how easy it is to home parkerize and cerakote.

Very nice looking pistol.  I am sure it shoots even better than it looks.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on August 31 2017 09:12:47 AM MDT
Are you positive on the slide cuts? Every offering I have seen has them.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on August 31 2017 10:26:53 AM MDT
The Gold Match Extreme does.  The standard Match Extreme doesn't.

(https://eaacorp.com/media/djcatalog2/images/item/0/witness-gold-custom-xtreme-tanfoglio.2_f.png)

The only 10mm they list that has the ported/lightened slide is the Witness Limited Custom.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on August 31 2017 11:10:10 AM MDT
How confusing  ???

This one does: https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/eaa-tanfoglio-witness-match-xtreme-semi-automatic-10mm-6-barrel-14-round-capacity?a=1818963
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sstewart on August 31 2017 11:55:40 AM MDT
I wouldn't put 100% on online Gun sellers photos.
They are not always accurate. Hence their disclaimers that usually state that.
EAA is not a very precise organization. So ...


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Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on August 31 2017 12:31:43 PM MDT
The photo in that link is the Gold Match Extreme.  Same as the photo I posted.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on August 31 2017 01:57:32 PM MDT
I called a couple  different places that had current stock available of this model. Even had one place have a distributor pull one and check. Mine is marked gold  match extreme  and only the 9mm has the slide cuts. Not the 10mm or the 40. Current  models are also no longer  the 2 tone with the frame being  hard  chromed, but industrial  ceramic coating instead. 
  There are so many pictures out there it's very hard to nail down the current configuration  of these. Some pictures  representing  the 10mm were photos of the 9mm with the slide cuts.
  The only unexpected  surprise is that I was counting  on it having  a silver trigger. Only because I bought a  black trigger for it with intentions  of putting the silver one in my limited.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on August 31 2017 04:17:10 PM MDT
It often seems like EAA just assembles parts they have on hand.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on August 31 2017 05:43:37 PM MDT
So Sportsman's Guide used the wrong picture there.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on August 31 2017 05:51:52 PM MDT
I would say not only is it wrong, but it is at least 2 years old or more. It says Tanfoglio  where they have said
Witness EAA Cocoa  FL  for at least  2 years now.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on September 02 2017 02:31:28 PM MDT
I picked it up last night and made some changes with parts I had waiting  for it.

Replaced the gold team ambi safety with the ambi used on the stock 2 & 3 , and slimed the paddles  down.
Replaced the silver extended  mag release  with a standard  black release.
Re-contured  the rear sight.
20lb recoil spring, 18lb hammer spring, extra power firing pin spring and EGW flat bottom firing pin stop.

  I shot it today with some S&B, Sig fmj,  and Underwood  155gr xtp  & 165gr gold dot. I had 1 failure  to go into battery  with a gold dot. This set up is finally  the awnser for brass not to go into orbit.

First picture Stock configuration
Second  picture  after












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Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sstewart on September 02 2017 02:51:12 PM MDT
 Very nice changes. I like


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Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: BEEMER! on September 02 2017 03:34:06 PM MDT

I agree, I really like the changes.

I like the frame color also, cool gun all around.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on September 02 2017 04:05:32 PM MDT
EGW makes a flat bottom block now?
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on September 02 2017 05:16:43 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on September 02 2017 04:05:32 PM MDT
EGW makes a flat bottom block now?

Yes. It's listed on there  website,  but with no detailed  description. I emailed them and they confirmed  it is a FBFPS. I bought one for all three of my 10mm Tanfo's.



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Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on September 02 2017 05:41:08 PM MDT
That's excellent! Looks like a good piece and I might have to pick up a spare.


Is the rear sight an LPA design with any changes?
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on September 02 2017 06:04:57 PM MDT
It's not marked LPA like my stock III, and has a taller blade like on my limited.  but it is fully serrarrated and the one on my limited  is not , but the LPA marked one is. So I would  say they have changed it somewhat yet again.




Here is the fps part#

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Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: Intercooler on September 02 2017 07:45:29 PM MDT
I know it's still early, but which one do you like shooting the most?
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on September 02 2017 08:33:46 PM MDT
The limited  is  my favorite over  the stock III, but no matter how hard I try I shoot the Stock III consistently more accurate. I put about  100 rounds through the extreme today and it wasn't bad at all, but at this point the stock III still has the edge.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: sqlbullet on September 04 2017 01:46:52 AM MDT
Thanks for the info about EGW offering a FPFPS for the Witness.  Ordering two as soon as I am home from India.
Title: Re: Witness Match Extreme #610650
Post by: 01deuce on September 16 2017 07:53:06 PM MDT
It's now a gold match extreme 10mm custom carry





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