Was watching an interview with some high level Democratic Senators.
Diane Feinstein says she is re-introducing the assault weapons ban bill and a ban on magazines over 10 rounds, possibly 8 rounds for handguns the very first day congress goes back into session. She said "We must get these weapons of war off of the street. Nobody needs any type of semi-auto or auto, especially one that holds more than 8 or 10 bullets in a clip." ???
Everytime some psychopathic Video Game Brainwashed idiot runs amuck with the intent to Kill or Mame, the DEMONCRATS blame guns, want to jump on the "Ban" Wagon!
We don't see them trying to eleminate the hypnotic trans inducing Videos teaching these kids to press the switch, just like a trigger, to rackup points as the blast away with all the various partrayed weapons at hand, hours on end, day after day!
These same kids grow up and it is all they know!
couldn't agree more
Quote from: The_Shadow on December 16 2012 04:04:55 PM MST
Everytime some psychopathic Video Game Brainwashed idiot runs amuck with the intent to Kill or Mame, the DEMONCRATS blame guns, want to jump on the "Ban" Wagon!
We don't see them trying to eleminate the hypnotic trans inducing Videos teaching these kids to press the switch, just like a trigger, to rackup points as the blast away with all the various partrayed weapons at hand, hours on end, day after day!
These same kids grow up and it is all they know!
Could not agree more!! I am the Alabama State Chairman here
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Tonight just after the president had finished speaking i was posting THIS on my facebook site as well as the Party Facebook.
Was the President pushing an agenda of gaining absolute control of the citizens at tonight's event or about solving the root cause to this problem??
All you hear from many is we have to take the Guns ( and YES you will have to TAKE them by
FORCE if you want to disarm this nation!!) but where are the cry's over these ultra realistic Video Games that desensitize the players to killing?? There is MUCH evidence that an addiction to games like this was a major factor in EVERY single one of the recent shootings. Yet not one word do you hear about this issue. Guns are NOT the problem and no group is more angry than the law abiding gun owners in this nation over this.
Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious they have more need of masters.
"Those willing to forfeit liberty for security will have neither."
Benjamin Franklin
http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/gun-control-not-again/#more-1377
I also have a call in to out National Chairman as we need to take a stand as a National party on this NOW!!!
Old Frankenstein jumps at every chance she gets to disarm Americans, I bet her and Bloomberg wont give up their armed security detail.
Update:
Feinstein's latest comments, "We're crafting this one. It's being done with care. It'll be ready on the first day. It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she said. "There will be a bill. It will pass like it did in 1994. And this time there won't be a 10 year limit, it will be permanent. We believe we have (perfected it)... the purpose of this bill is to get weapons of war off the streets of our cities."
We must not let this bill pass. A ten round magazine would not have stopped this lunatic from what he did, he would just have reloaded more often. These liberals are fucking stupid.
She's shooting high as they say.Asking for the stars.Im going to say "Importation Ban",check.Mag capacity,check.Grandfather clause nixed as last time,No.Pistol grip,No.Transfer,no,but extremely costly and burdensome.This will put a hurting on the buisness itself,no doubt.This will drag out for awhile.Now it's all about accessories.Were going to see politicaly once and for all who is not "Bought and Paid for".
Well I don't have an AR but do you think they will come for the registered arms?
IC, if you move to free America there aren't any registered firearms. Those are state laws if you have to register your guns, not federal.
As far as for form 4473, didn't I tell you guys....I sold all my guns just last night via the newspaper. No, I don't remember his name...
:P
The real fight here is in the hearts and minds of the more tender hearted around us. My wife logically knows the gun control laws are nonsense, but every time she sees one of the innocent faces of the children, she wants SOMETHING DONE!!! It has been an interesting couple of days around our house as I have refuted the bunk she has been reading.
I think I might have to re-prioritize a few purchases though, just in case.
And, for you guys that may be thinking you just don't have the funds right now for an AR....Just buy a stripped lower. They run around $100 usually for a decent one. Dump another hundred or two into p-mags and then build up the gun later. Once you have the lower, you legally own the "gun". Everything else is just parts.
They can limit the clips I am fine with it...just leave my mags alone 8)
Government Gone Wild, is poising itself to do enact even more laws or gun bans...this will not bring back the lives lost in the recent shootings, God rest their souls and bring comfort to those families of this tragic event. However the mentally ill or criminal mind doesn't obey laws of neither man, nor God!
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Legislation is coming. I don't think it can be avoid so...
I had an AK/AR purchase on the radar almost equal to a .22 rifle. I wasn't in the know on the ban. Would I be able to shoot it at a range? Don't want a firearm I can't even shoot.
If your are concerned about up coming legislation,and this is only my opinion,then wait to see what kind get's passed.
U.S. private equity firm Ceberus Capitol Management said on Tuesday it will immediately begin selling its investment in gunmaker Freedom Group in light of last weeks shooting in Conn.Ceberus acquired firearms maker Bushmaster in 2006 and later merged it with other gun companies to create Freedom Group,which reported net sales of 677.3 million for 9 months ending Sept,2012,up from 564.6 million in same period last year.Folks,the writing is on the wall.It's called liqudate.This group selling has some heavy hitters in terms of investers,they KNOW whats upcoming.
Money makes for strange bedfellows.
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/17/the-money-behind-the-massacre/?hpt=hp_t2
Probably too much to ask, but maybe someone in Congress will think about the loss of jobs caused by any knee jerk reactionary legislation. Being more symbolic than meaningful, I'm sure they'll jump on the bandwagon as it distracts from their self imposed 'Fiscal Cliff' problems or getting answers to what happened in Benghazi.
Congress is also part of the problem, they will shoot themselves in the foot, by driving the firearms and ammo industry into the ground, that they will need to supply firearms and ammo for their own governmental needs! Not to mention what that will do to cost for local law enforcement agencies across the country!
If they worked as hard to build a better ecconomic situation for this country by creating jobs instead of disposing of them, the country and its people will be better off!
Nothing that the GOVERNMENT GONE WILD can do will bring those people back from the grave! I feel very bad for the loss of lives by all instruments of death what ever they maybe...the mentally ill or criminal mind doesn't obey laws of neither man, nor God!
Both sides will get what they want,more spending for one,cuts in entitlements for the other.Your right,don't let the left know what your right hand is doing.In no way did I take the cliff for what it is,a show piece for the masses.
Good luck passing anti gun legislation through the House, right now it has 240 Republicans and 190 Democrats.
I think sqlbullet summed up my concerns perfectly. I see a lot of previously "pro gun" and otherwise rational people (like my wife too) starting to slip. There is a huge need to "DO SOMETHING". The emotions are understandably running really high. I've been hearing the argument "if it would even save ONE child, it would be worth it" a lot. I am with all of you. I don't think restricting the rights of law abiding citizens will save anyone, but I feel a shift in the overall sentiment of the country right now. I hope I'm wrong and that more logical and rational thought wins out.
Quote from: Grim Reaper on December 18 2012 08:19:15 PM MST
Good luck passing anti gun legislation through the House, right now it has 240 Republicans and 190 Democrats.
Looks like they know they can't run a bill through both Houses quickly. A committee chaired by the VP is going to look at the 'problem'. Not just guns but mental health questions etc. I think they're hoping for more anti gun sentiment to sway/pressure representatives to their side over time. Look for the media to keep fanning the flames for as long as possible.
Which means we have to be calm, rational and spot on with facts over the coming months. Review sound data. Spend time on the CDC site looking at the wisqars (http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html) data for 1999-2007.
Point out that any number of "target" 22LR rifles (thinking 10/22 or Marlin model 70) would have been pretty much just as effective in this crime.
Point out that you can never stop a madman from doing great harm. This guys was willing to kill his own mother. Do we really doubt that if she had not had an AR rifle he would not have taken out a cop instead to gain access to the rifle.
Point out that CT already has some form of assault weapons ban. Point out that Norway's extremely cumbersome firearm laws didn't stop a madman there from killing 77 people in 2011. The median age of that group was just under 18, with over 3/4 of the victims being people 18 and under.
Remain calm, even if people attack you personally. Empathize. Apologize for their heart ache. And gently remind them that we have tried varying degrees of gun control in this country for over 70 years, without any correlating reduction, or increase, in violent crime rates. Join them in the cry to look for ways to prevent this, but stand firm that doing something that is proven to have no effect is worse than doing nothing. It only wastes money and resources that might otherwise be used on a real solution.
Remember that these poor children and their parents are heroes of the highest order, who have given their lives in the name of our Liberty.
Finally make sure when quoting or reciting facts you are meticulously accurate. Don't offer data you can't support with a citation. Don't interchange similar words, there is a huge difference between words like median and average. The average age of the Norway victims was 20, while the median age was 2 years younger. If someone on the fence feels you have mis-lead them, they will never believe another fact again in support of gun rights.
I think this will, unfortunately, blow over. It shouldn't. Those kids should have a national memorial. They are heroes who should remind us all the liberty we enjoy is not without price.