For 20 years I've carried a compact 1911. I always scorned plastic framed, striker fired guns as an abomination on the altar of John M. Browning. If it was my life, it had to be cocked and locked.
Then I was offered a Ruger SR9, barely fired, at a great price (gun + 3 mags = $300). I figured I couldn't lose; if I didn't like it, I could sell it for that much, or trade at a gun show.
I squirted some CLP on it, and took it to the range. I shot cast lead handloads, Cor-Bon +p 115 grain, Cor-Bon +p 90 grain, Winchester NATO, IMI, RP 115 grain JHP, American Eagle 115 and 147, Federal 9BP, 9BPLE +p+, etc etc, whatever was laying around in a partially-fired box, I shot it. I didn't know how to make it not work.
I think it is, for me, an improved Glock. I never like the Glock's lack of a safety, or the grip angle when point-shooting. Behold, the SR9 points just like a 1911, and has a thumb safety.
1. Thumb safety.
2. 17+1
3. Points like a 1911
4. Feeds anything.
5. Fires and ejects anything.
6. Ultra-easy field strip and clean up.
7. Mags are affordable (2 pak $36)
8. Thin as a 1911
9. Low bore axis
10. Stupidly reliable
So now the 1911 is retired to the safe, a concealment holster is purchased, and I have a new every day carry gun.
Good post! Now I am checking out Sr9's. Just what my bank account needs ;D
Gosh, for reliability like this, coming in under $400.00, it's totally worth a look
That is a great price!
But I trust my Glock and my other plastic guns as well. I certainly would never carry ANYTHING that wasn't reliable.
Absolutely, trust my Glocks completely
Big ol 1911 hard for me to justify in the summer (when not working, typically rocking shorts & flip flops or slip on shoes.... the plastic Glocks, HKs, S&Ws sure make easier proposition and Lower radar profile...
In the colder months with jacked & layers, much more likely to incorporate the 1911's or G-20 back into the mix. If planning to be in sticks (which never needs much of an excuse) it's G-20.
Absolutely, Minnesota winters allow me to carry most anything, not so much when it's 90 and humid
Quote from: Kenk on June 06 2018 05:54:27 PM MDT
Absolutely, Minnesota winters allow me to carry most anything, not so much when it's 90 and humid
How about in TX when it's 108 and humid? Better have a plastic and stainless gun.
Course "inexpensive" is absolutely relative!
While I have absolutely no reservations with carrying plastic HK, S&W, Walther, Sig, Glock or a Ruger (SR9), wouldn't say the same about Kel-tec, Bursa or a Hi-Point.
I personally wouldn't pick any bottom of the barrel dwellers; much more import variables beside saving a buck.
I admire a handsome, well crafted piece with soul, style & flair as much as the next aficionado. While
they may not be super sexy, the list of Tupperware pistols at the top have well earned reputations for reliability when things get hairy.
Absolutely, plastic soulless weapons like the Glock certainly have their place, not to mention, I trust my Glocks completely
The Ruger LCP 380 although cheap and small it does serve a purpose as primary or secondary backup piece.
So you like the Ruger LCP for the most part?, anything about it you don't care for?
I like the pistol, but it is a tiny gun in my hands! Understand that this is a very up close quarters pistol. It hides in the watch pocket of some of my jeans! :o
It sounds similarly sized to my old SW Bodyguard
My Bodyguard was a fun little gun, but would not trust my life with it. It would feed perfectly for 50 or 100 rd's, and then fail, and then work, and fail again, not a great attributefor a carry weapon
I have thought about tracking down an AMT Backup in 40 S&W for the 10mm conversion. Just not sure what it would do that my Glock 29 doesn't do better except be smaller.
Love my SigP290.Heavy for a 6 rounder, but works just fine.No recoil from weight. Took lazer off. It's a up close piece. Not into lazers. 390.00,Sig night sights, Sig lazer. Shot once by owner. My 2018 find. These sell NIB 650 range. Another value pistol I bought and carry is the S&W SDVE 9mm. 8lb trigger works great after softening up,15 rounds and light. 249.00 t0 300 range. POA much better than my G20. Eats it all. Someone really low on funds and in need of a pistol that can run, I'd say a SCCY9mm. I beat it pretty good. Wasn't extracting round, sent it back and received a almost new pistol. Super warranty of the business.
Quote from: Kenk on June 07 2018 07:59:26 AM MDT
So you like the Ruger LCP for the most part?, anything about it you don't care for?
FWIW We had a few guys using the LCP as off duty / backup guns. They seemed to run 100% with any ammo, scored well on a 40 round qualification from 3 to 25 yards. The only "problem" was they all only had ONE magazine. Everyone else had to wait every six rounds while they reloaded.
There were one or two SR-9 shooters too. I don't remember any issues, if you brought a gun that worked you didn't get noticed. Bring a problem gun and drama ensued. We sent a few guys home butt hurt when their new gat proved unreliable. Current Ruger pistols seem to be pretty squared away.
Lol, so many great choices, only in America : )
My Bodyguard .380 fell apart, then locked up. FFL actually gave me my money back!
I have an LCP. its my "deep concealment" gun. it is 100% reliable with every ammo I have tried. it doesn't shoot bad either.
SCCY runs 10 rounds of 9mm. Comes with 2 10 Round mags. Snappy with D/A trigger only. But a worthy self defense pistol . 3.1 inch barrel. 3 Dot sights.
Quote from: sqlbullet on June 07 2018 11:58:20 AM MDT
I have thought about tracking down an AMT Backup in 40 S&W for the 10mm conversion. Just not sure what it would do that my Glock 29 doesn't do better except be smaller.
Don't depend on AMT for your life. Cheapo stuff made in California, more or less like Jimenez, Bryco, etc.
I've had an original 1st gen Kel-Tec P3AT (the predecessor for the Ruger LCP) since about 96 or so and have put over 1k through it. I once hit a snake in the head twice with it from ~10' or so. Not bad for a gun with only a sight groove and no actual sights. It is not particularly fun to shoot due to it pinching my trigger finger every shot, but it is a 'working gun' as is my other main weapon when I can carry it, 3rd gen G29 (by choice, don't want a rail on subcompact). After front pocket carry for many years, I finally had to have the slide cerakoted as it was starting to show faint rust from being against me during the hot summer months.
Any gun that is to become my main carry gun gets a bare minimum of 250 rounds through it and if it hiccups, then the count resets. I have to have 250 rounds FLAWLESSLY before I will carry it. I need to know that if I ever have to pull it out, it will work (true for other things too ;D ).
i don't see a need for the little LCP or crappy 380 guns anymore with the addition of the ultra small 9mms like kahr or glock 43. We have tested several 380s and they are a horrible, anemic little rounds. Your life is worth more than that, especially the life of your families. Shot placement is everything, but if your rounds don't penetrate deep enough to get to the goodies, then they are worthless. yes they are easy and a lot more comfortable, and convenient. convenience = complacency ..Sorry, i like you guys..I'm off the soapbox now, i promise.
Quote from: will965 on September 22 2018 09:52:59 PM MDT
i don't see a need for the little LCP or crappy 380 guns anymore with the addition of the ultra small 9mms like kahr or glock 43. We have tested several 380s and they are a horrible, anemic little rounds. Your life is worth more than that, especially the life of your families. Shot placement is everything, but if your rounds don't penetrate deep enough to get to the goodies, then they are worthless. yes they are easy and a lot more comfortable, and convenient. convenience = complacency ..Sorry, i like you guys..I'm off the soapbox now, i promise.
My LCP has one purpose only: carrying while dressed for, and doing, athletic stuff outdoors. Even the 9mm Shield is too big and heavy for that. It's the difference between seven rounds of self-defense, and nothing.