Hey guys!! This is my 1st post, an I know it's been talked about several times. I am a pistol deer hunter when the situation allows me to kill with a pistol. I have always used my Ruger super Redhawk 44 mag topped with leupold 4X scope with excellent results. I have always been a 10mm fan an just bought me a smith 610 with the 6 1/2 inch Barrel. This will be a iron sight Hunting gun so most shots will be 75 yards an in. I am looking for a factory load to hunt with. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Jeremy
Welcome Model12boy,
I have had great success shooting Whitetail with Underwood's 180, and 200gr XTP in my G20
Have fun and be safe
Ken
Thanks, I think a lot of people like the underwood ammo
Absolutely, many will likely have the same or similar response : )
Using the assumption that you are hunting whitetail and not mulies, I would think Underwood, Sig V-Crown 180, or the Speer Gold Dot 200 grain would offer plenty of penetration and expansion. The Winchester Silvertips and Hornady 180 XTP factory loads are right behind these and would also perform fine.
The gold dot an sig V crown have been highly spoken of as well. Just need to see which of the highly recommended shoots the best in my gun
I have found the Underwood 180 XTP to be very accurate. Costly, but accurate.
Yep, but after testing for accuracy and feeding issues, your set : )
I use the trophy bonded soft nose for deer. Has worked great on a couple medium sized does.
https://www.federalpremium.com/products/handgun/premium-centerfire-handgun/trophy-bonded-jsp/p10t1
Really, with proper shot placement, 150- 200 grainers are more than adequate. Personally, I like the 180 or 200gr Underwood / hand rolled XTP, as they have always preformed perfectly
Thanks
Ken
Any one use lead 170gr truncated ?
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I'm a little behind. Good to know the V-Crown has gotten a good reputation. I use it in other calibers. Very reasonably priced.
The lee 170 gr tc should be a great bullet. I use it in my 40 carbine sheild. Like everything else you are the main thing rhat will determine how far to shoot
Quote from: Ruger4570 on March 25 2019 09:52:46 AM MDT
The lee 170 gr tc should be a great bullet. I use it in my 40 carbine sheild. Like everything else you are the main thing rhat will determine how far to shoot
So true
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Quote from: Kenk on August 30 2018 01:06:09 PM MDT
Yep, but after testing for accuracy and feeding issues, your set : )
Hopefully no feeding issues in a 610.... :D
I've been toying with the notion of hunting with my 10mm carbine this deer season in ohio. I've been loading and testing some loads and have probably settled on a 200gr xtp load. I tried the 180gr in my carbine. With the 17.5" barrel its clocking close to 1600fps and in gel tests has just destroyed the bullet. The 200gr XTP at 1400fps out of the carbine has been very accurate out to 75 yards. Any insight of the recovered bullets or deer that has been taken with the 10mm?
The deer I shot with a 200 grain XTP was from my muzzle loader, while the bullet started out right at 2000 fps at the muzzle at the 140 yard impact it would have been about 1200 fps.
The bullet entered on the right side behind the front shoulder, broke ribs entering blew through both lungs and heart, broke a rib on the far side an came to rest under the skin behind the left shoulder. The deer ran down hill about 200 yards and crashed dead. Hornady bullet opened up and rolled back on itself, expanded to .700" widest .640" narrowest, length from mushroom to base of the bullet .480", retained weight was 162 grains.
Shadow, how big are the deer down there? Here in north central Ohio they're corn fed country deer lol. My deer last year was a 8 point 200lb+ buck before dressing him out, netted me an entire freezer full of meat and we just finished it up 2 weeks ago.
Some range about 170-180 but often smaller. After I deboned all of mine I had 94 lbs meat all of it went to sausage (132 lbs of sausage total was made when adding the pork)
In MN they can get pretty big. When looking at meat quality, I would prefer a mid size deer any day of the week. (150-180) Two years ago I got my first one with a pistol, the G20, our daughters both thought it was roast beef , Lol : )
Quote from: Pctechdude on August 21 2019 12:07:57 AM MDT
I've been toying with the notion of hunting with my 10mm carbine this deer season in ohio. I've been loading and testing some loads and have probably settled on a 200gr xtp load. I tried the 180gr in my carbine. With the 17.5" barrel its clocking close to 1600fps and in gel tests has just destroyed the bullet. The 200gr XTP at 1400fps out of the carbine has been very accurate out to 75 yards. Any insight of the recovered bullets or deer that has been taken with the 10mm?
That's interesting the 180gr got torn up in gel at 1600fps. I cannot find the pdf online anymore but I remember reading that the velocity ranges for the 10mm XTPs were 700-1200fps for the 200gr and 1150-1800fps for the 180gr XTP. I believe you, just it's interesting given the chart I read. I will see if I can find it.
Quote from: Bluebird5000 on August 25 2019 07:06:54 PM MDT
Quote from: Pctechdude on August 21 2019 12:07:57 AM MDT
I've been toying with the notion of hunting with my 10mm carbine this deer season in ohio. I've been loading and testing some loads and have probably settled on a 200gr xtp load. I tried the 180gr in my carbine. With the 17.5" barrel its clocking close to 1600fps and in gel tests has just destroyed the bullet. The 200gr XTP at 1400fps out of the carbine has been very accurate out to 75 yards. Any insight of the recovered bullets or deer that has been taken with the 10mm?
That's interesting the 180gr got torn up in gel at 1600fps. I cannot find the pdf online anymore but I remember reading that the velocity ranges for the 10mm XTPs were 700-1200fps for the 200gr and 1150-1800fps for the 180gr XTP. I believe you, just it's interesting given the chart I read. I will see if I can find it.
Both boxes of my new XTP's 180gr and 200gr say velocity ranger 700fps-1500fps. I'll get a picture of them and post it.
I posted pictures of on the forum regarding the 180gr and the gel block. It split gel block and the bullet shed its jacket, and fragmented some.
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Hornady 10mm bullet velocities...
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New xtp boxes have it on the top lower left corner(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/3165cbed07bdcb0c2e2816c61e13a856.jpg)
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Quote from: Kenk on August 24 2019 02:40:28 PM MDT
In MN they can get pretty big. When looking at meat quality, I would prefer a mid size deer any day of the week. (150-180) Two years ago I got my first one with a pistol, the G20, our daughters both thought it was roast beef , Lol : )
I invited my parents and my father in law over for Christmas dinner. Told them I was doing a roast, just didn't mention what kind. Now mind you, my parents are country raised but neither hunt. When they down the first helping and went back for seconds, they asked where I got the beef roast from. Said o e of the best they ever had. I proceeded to chuckle as I explained it wasn't beef but the deer I shot on our farm.
They were amazed, and promptly asked for some meat to take home.
I live in North Central Ohio, predominantly all farm land and the deer graze on corn. Even the big ones aren't game tasting, they may be tougher, but mainly taste just like beef.
Shadow, not to much difference then, we have plenty of room, if they decide to run. So I'm feeling pretty confident in this.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190826/17beab3c1880a0e63f7b4fd56336d17b.jpg)
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Amen to that!
Thanks @The_Shadow and @Pctechdude for the info. I was unable to find the PDF I had previously downloaded. Perhaps I remembered incorrectly and I did read 1450 instead of 1800fps.
The numbers you list make me wonder if I should switch from 200gr XTP to 180gr XTP. I wonder if Hornady has made any small changes to the bullets over the last 20 years and that's why the recommended velocity ranges changed slightly.
I don't reload myself and I like Underwood, so it's 200gr @ 1250fps or 180gr @1300fps
Quote from: Bluebird5000 on August 29 2019 10:00:51 PM MDT
Thanks @The_Shadow and @Pctechdude for the info. I was unable to find the PDF I had previously downloaded. Perhaps I remembered incorrectly and I did read 1450 instead of 1800fps.
The numbers you list make me wonder if I should switch from 200gr XTP to 180gr XTP. I wonder if Hornady has made any small changes to the bullets over the last 20 years and that's why the recommended velocity ranges changed slightly.
I don't reload myself and I like Underwood, so it's 200gr @ 1250fps or 180gr @1300fps
Not sure if they've updated the bullets per shadows post or what they are putting on the new boxes of bullets. Out my carbine the 180gr just shredded itself.
Out of the pistol you can't really go wrong with either one. I'm still on the fence about which one I want to use. I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet soon and choose one lol.
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Fiocchi 180 Jhp, cheap, 1250fps, textbook expansion and I have taken 2 deer without problem.