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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Pablo on January 24 2019 10:42:42 AM MST

Title: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on January 24 2019 10:42:42 AM MST
https://www.sgammo.com/product/10mm-auto-ammo/1000-round-case-10mm-auto-180-grain-fmj-ammo-sellier-bellot-sb10a
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Overkill338 on February 01 2019 04:01:02 PM MST
Those are my favorite plinking loads. Probably the cleanest shooting out there. The only thing I like better is Blazer Aluminum,  and I'm probably the minority on that.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Bruno747 on February 04 2019 03:02:58 PM MST
Typically S&B is good stuff.

How is the brass quality on these for reloading purposes?
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on February 04 2019 03:14:46 PM MST
Quote from: Bruno747 on February 04 2019 03:02:58 PM MST
Typically S&B is good stuff.

How is the brass quality on these for reloading purposes?

Fine for standard loads. I've not loaded any cooking hot, so unknown at the max load end.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on February 08 2019 11:11:20 PM MST
Isn't the S&B brand generally considered to be virtually the same as Magtech?
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on February 09 2019 05:32:51 AM MST
Quote from: terdog on February 08 2019 11:11:20 PM MST
Isn't the S&B brand generally considered to be virtually the same as Magtech?

Not the same, but owned by the same company CBC. Magtech is made in Brazil typically.

https://magtechammunition.com/about-us/
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on February 20 2019 01:55:21 PM MST
So, they aren't similar?
I know about the different plants.
Seems to me that their performance was considered  identical.
Please elaborate  on the differences.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on February 20 2019 06:28:10 PM MST
Quote from: terdog on February 20 2019 01:55:21 PM MST
So, they aren't similar?
I know about the different plants.
Seems to me that their performance was considered  identical.
Please elaborate  on the differences.

Those are good questions. I don't know about 10mm in particular, but a few years ago the 9mm and .45ACP were different loads, different powders and velocities. 2019? The 10mm might be the same(?) they didn't make 10mm until recently.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on February 20 2019 10:15:10 PM MST
Seems that I saw that the velocities were the same.

I usually run Magtech because I find better deals on it.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on February 21 2019 03:57:42 AM MST
Quote from: terdog on February 20 2019 10:15:10 PM MST
Seems that I saw that the velocities were the same.

I usually run Magtech because I find better deals on it.

Where?
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on February 26 2019 08:11:00 AM MST
I believe that my last case was through SGAmmo. As I recall, it ended up being about $14 a box, shipped.

I won't need to buy more for awhile. A couple weeks ago, I meet a guy through a friend, that was moving across the country. He was selling all his guns/ammo.

Part of what I bought was 2K rnds of the LAXammo.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on February 26 2019 05:42:35 PM MST
Quote from: terdog on February 26 2019 08:11:00 AM MST
I believe that my last case was through SGAmmo. As I recall, it ended up being about $14 a box, shipped.


That is a GREAT price........let's just say in modern times, certain have not seen decent 10mm plinking ammo so cheap!! So thanks.

That said, this review is interesting:

QuoteAs usual great service from SGA. This ammo is more powerful than Armscor or American Eagle. However, I had 2 failure to feeds in my DW Bruin and one failed primer in the first box I shot. Also, it seemed to be noticeably dirtier than the aforementioned brands and Sellier & Bellot. Sellior & Bellot has been 100% reliable and cleaner than this. A friend of mine had the same issues through his S&W 1006.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: blaster on February 26 2019 08:06:17 PM MST
I ordered some of that ammo. today it5 was delivered and when I opened the box, it was all in Magpul blue boxes instead of the green & brown S&B boxes. I didn't chrono any but I shot 3 boxes through my Witness and XDM and they were stout loads.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on February 27 2019 07:28:36 AM MST
I haven't shot the ARMSCO ammo, but TRUESHOT has a 1200 rnd 'case" for $323 shipped.
Thats $13.45 p/50!
The velocity on it is rated at 1000 fps   :(

https://www.trueshotgunclub.com/armscor/10mm-180gr-fmj-1200rd-free-shipping-9145?avad=211021_f1528fc91
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on February 27 2019 07:36:39 AM MST
Not so long ago those were 9mm prices!
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: blaster on February 27 2019 02:44:00 PM MST
I meant to write Magtech not Magpul. :-[ and the brass is head stamped CBC.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on March 26 2019 10:14:29 PM MDT
S&B specs



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Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Univibe on March 30 2019 10:15:41 PM MDT
You boys burning all this cheap ammo, send me some once fired brass!
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: blaster on March 31 2019 06:42:09 AM MDT
the reason I bought this ammo IS for the brass. I was all set to buy 1000 pieces of StarLine brass. I saw this sale, did some math and since I was going to load up a bunch of blasting ammo to familiarize my self with 2 new 10mm pistols, decided buying was about the same price as reloading with less time at the reloading bench and more time on the shooting bench.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: 4949shooter on March 31 2019 12:31:46 PM MDT
I am interested to see what the newest version does over a chronograph.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on March 31 2019 12:41:26 PM MDT
^ Me too.

I wonder of the accuracy of all the manufactuers claims. The Armscor stuff seems to be weak.

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Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on March 31 2019 12:45:34 PM MDT
The CCI as well. Not that I'd buy the AL cased stuff.
This just puts the Magtech stuff in a better light.

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Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: blaster on March 31 2019 07:14:56 PM MDT
Quote from: 4949shooter on March 31 2019 12:31:46 PM MDT
I am interested to see what the newest version does over a chronograph.
I just so happen to have ordered a new chronograph. ;D I planned on checking these as well as my reloads as soon as its delivered. Ill post the results.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: Pablo on March 31 2019 07:40:51 PM MDT
Quote from: terdog on March 26 2019 10:14:29 PM MDT
S&B specs

https://www.sellierbellot.us/products/pistol-and-revolver-ammunition/pistol-and-revolver-cartridges/detail/485/

https://magtechammunition.com/products/10mm-auto-180gr-fmj/

These seem different enough. Regardless, I'm buying Magtech next sale!
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: terdog on April 02 2019 10:07:50 PM MDT
Guess thats the updated specs on Magtech.

I too prefer Magtech.
Title: Re: S&B Good dealio $279 per 1000
Post by: blaster on April 08 2019 05:44:32 AM MDT
yesterday I chronoed the Magtech ammo. 5 rounds shot from my Witness and 5 rds. shot from my XDM 4.5 in bbl.
Witness                               XDM
1164 fps.                             1154 fps.
1131                                    1172
1155                                    1168
1158                                     1149
1157                                     1176
not too shabby for cheap factory ammo. its actually about the same speed as my 180 gr. reloads using 10.7 gr. of Blue Dot with less recoil & muzzle flash. :o