10mm-Auto

Firearms => 10mm semi-auto handguns => Topic started by: sqlbullet on March 08 2013 08:57:51 AM MST

Title: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: sqlbullet on March 08 2013 08:57:51 AM MST


I don't really see it being much of an advantage over my Witness Elite Match, but some guys have brand preference.  Cool though.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: REDLINE on March 08 2013 09:15:50 AM MST
I think there's more enthusiasm for the 10mm Auto than we sometimes realize.  There can never be too many platform options.  Like sqlbullet said;  "...some guys have brand preference."  I would say that's as much true for the ammo as it is for the platforms.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Munch on May 06 2013 10:02:04 PM MDT
While I was at the NRA Convention in Houston last weekend, I talked with one of the CZ guys in the expo about the chances of this pistol becoming a reality.

He knew exactly what video I was talking about, but had said that this pistol was only a proof of concept, and that there were no plans to put it into production....

:(
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: DM1906 on May 07 2013 01:01:21 AM MDT
I'm a big CZ fan, and wouldn't hesitate adding a CZ 10mm to my armory.  Disappointing to hear the news from the rep.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: sqlbullet on May 07 2013 07:41:36 AM MDT
Time to write the letters.  Let them know that there would be sales if they made it happen, even if it were a limited run.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: agtman on August 13 2013 05:59:03 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on March 08 2013 08:57:51 AM MST


I don't really see it being much of an advantage over my Witness Elite Match, but some guys have brand preference.  Cool though.

Well, isn't the Match a SA only gun? It's primarily set up for competitive shooting events (IDPA/IPSC).

This one has the traditional CZ set-up of DA/SA for EDC, duty use or home defense (just like the original "CZ-inspired" Bren Ten).

Same with having a fixed rear sight instead of some cheesy Euro-version of a Millet adjustable like Tanfoglio uses.  'Course, I'd prefer that CZ use, or at least offer the option of, one of the newer designs of Tritiun combat sights, like you find nowadays on upscale 1911s.

Still, on their first foray into the 10mm-world, CZ is going to want to aim for as large a user-market as possible.

8)
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: 10Ring on August 13 2013 11:00:45 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on May 07 2013 07:41:36 AM MDT
Time to write the letters.  Let them know that there would be sales if they made it happen, even if it were a limited run.
Address please?

There's a serious dearth of double stack 10mm handguns on the market.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: sqlbullet on August 14 2013 09:13:35 AM MDT
http://www.cz-usa.com/contact-us/
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: pacapcop on August 14 2013 07:25:44 PM MDT
I will e-mail as well. Like to see it in a decocker model. Nickel too. ;D
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: 4949shooter on August 15 2013 04:50:45 AM MDT
It looks like it has potential. I would like to know what ammo he was using.

Edit: On second viewing, I noticed you could hear the trigger reset. This is something I have never noticed on a semi auto pistol before.

Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: sqlbullet on August 15 2013 08:48:04 AM MDT
I can hear it on all mine if I focus on keeping the trigger back, wait and then deliberately release it.  I notice it clearly in dry fire practice when I rack the slide with the trigger still down to re-cock.  Usually I don't notice it when actually shooting, unless I really try.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: pacapcop on August 21 2013 12:09:46 PM MDT
Got a reply back from CZ.
My comment was that a 10mm platform in a model 97 or 97BD would make a great addition to the CZ line up for us 10mm shooters.
Response was from Zach Hein CZUSA.
I agree completely. We built a 10mm 97 to show to the factory,but with the way demand is right now,pushing them to bring out new models is very difficult.Ill keep at them and hopefully we'll be able to make it happen.


Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: DM1906 on August 21 2013 02:40:04 PM MDT
That would be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath. If they make one, I'll own one. CZ makes some of the finest pistols, carbines and rifles in the world. Mine are top notch.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: gandog56 on August 22 2013 06:36:42 AM MDT
Well, since CZ owns Dan Wesson, and Dan Wesson makes 10mm's this is the way I went.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/Picture1.jpg)
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: pacapcop on August 22 2013 07:52:49 PM MDT
Very nice. We are just looking for the SA/DA 97 platform. Again, nice pistol. Kind of has that 1006 look I might add.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: OldSheepdog on December 24 2013 05:51:17 PM MST
Sign me up! A CZ in 10mm? Yes! Yes! Yes!
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: DenStinett on December 24 2013 06:05:26 PM MST
Well, I too would be interested in a CZ97 in 10mm
It would be nice if they'd offer it with different length Uppers too
I have a 10mm Withness with a Compact and a Longslide Upper, so it wouldn't be much of a jump to go CZ
If I could afford it, I'd get the DW Titan or an STI Widebody
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: gandog56 on December 28 2013 07:23:00 AM MST
Well, if you had LOTS and LOTS of money, Grayguns will convert a SIG to 10mm for you. It was just cheaper for me to go with a custom Made Fusion Firearms.

Sig conversion:
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z444/slosig/P220-10/IMG_0017.jpg)

My Fusion Firearms custom built long slide 10mm.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/CappieHunterTradXlElite-3.jpg)
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: OldSheepdog on June 05 2014 11:01:27 PM MDT
Yes! Oh yes! Call me collect at 3AM. I would love to have a SIG in 10mm!
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: gandog56 on June 06 2014 06:39:01 AM MDT
Like I said, Grayguns will do it, but it costs and you have to supply the SIG for the conversion.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: dakota1911 on July 31 2014 05:30:54 PM MDT
Years ago I shot a friends Bren Ten a little.  It reminded me of a CZ97  more than any other pistol I have owned.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: DenStinett on July 31 2014 07:45:56 PM MDT
Quote from: dakota1911 on July 31 2014 05:30:54 PM MDT
Years ago I shot a friends Bren Ten a little.  It reminded me of a CZ97  more than any other pistol I have owned.
Makes perfect sense
Since Dornaus and Dixon barrow their basic design from the CZ75   8)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bren_Ten
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: pacapcop on August 01 2014 09:06:56 AM MDT
I have the CZ97BD, night sights.  It is one VERY accurate pistol and a tank.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Rafsob on January 28 2015 01:25:01 PM MST
Quote from: pacapcop on August 01 2014 09:06:56 AM MDT
I have the CZ97BD, night sights.  It is one VERY accurate pistol and a tank.

I went to the CZ site and they don't have a 10mm there in the 97BD pistol.  Is this a special order?  I know this is an old thread, so hope I get and answer.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: sqlbullet on January 28 2015 02:16:02 PM MST
The pistol the thread is about is a one-off custom conversion.  It is not a catalog item from CZ.

And, I would add, I find the Witness line superior to the 97B myself.  I have shot both back to back in a range outing, and would take my Witness over the 97B any day.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: eljohn3 on January 10 2016 10:28:50 PM MST
I like both CZ and Tanfoglio, but CZs are just geared more toward carry and Tanfoglios are geared more toward comp/target shooters. I'd rather have the 97bd in 10mm since it would usually ride in a chest rig when I go into the woods. If I was looking for a range beast, Tanfoglio would probably win the sale.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Intercooler on January 12 2016 07:18:48 AM MST
I'm still playing with the Grand Power. It's a plastic pistol, but has ergos like the Witness and if they roll out the decocker parts it will be a great carry piece.
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Captain_Witness on January 13 2016 12:19:11 PM MST
Quote from: agtman on August 13 2013 05:59:03 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on March 08 2013 08:57:51 AM MST


I don't really see it being much of an advantage over my Witness Elite Match, but some guys have brand preference.  Cool though.

Well, isn't the Match a SA only gun? It's primarily set up for competitive shooting events (IDPA/IPSC).


See my sig line.. I also pack 5 loaded mags. Have CCW-ed SAs for 30 years. I prefer the Witness for many reasons but one is the rail for my Lasermax mini
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Captain_Witness on January 13 2016 12:47:51 PM MST
Here's my daily loadout for shopping and about errands and traveling

(http://www.use.com/images/s_5/365fc7ad494e4df0990e_1.jpg?is=true&ps=true)
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: sqlbullet on January 13 2016 01:04:25 PM MST
What holster do you use?
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Reverendpdp on January 13 2016 01:07:00 PM MST
We could only hope for a CZ in 10mm, other than their DW line...
I emailed them requesting one... no response :(
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Captain_Witness on January 13 2016 01:20:06 PM MST
Quote from: sqlbullet on January 13 2016 01:04:25 PM MST
What holster do you use?

I vary, sometimes I wear a concealed weapons vest with an old "Law" universal packed in the inner left breast pocket, (very fast!) sometimes this leather shoulder holster, sometimes the crossdraw Doc Holiday holster I made for open carry

http://mascholster.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=59_60&product_id=71

My Doc Holiday (safariland horizontal mag carriers, have several)

(http://www.use.com/images/s_5/46827bf8661da6e75b63_1.jpg?is=true&ps=true)



Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Reverendpdp on January 15 2016 02:32:01 PM MST
Quote from: Reverendpdp on January 13 2016 01:07:00 PM MST
We could only hope for a CZ in 10mm, other than their DW line...
I emailed them requesting one... no response :(

They finally got back to me.  Here is what Dereck form CZ wrote:
"Our new Dan Wesson BRUIN is a 10MM long slide hunting pistol, check it out on our website for pricing and specifications."

Thanks,
Dereck
CZ-USA
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: gandog56 on January 28 2016 06:37:02 PM MST
I don't WANT to see it. If I see it, I'll want to BUY it! ???
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: Captain O on January 31 2016 12:35:02 AM MST
I love the idea of CZ introducing the 10mm using th CZ 97B platform. If it has a 5 inch barrel, all the better! (Frankly, I would prefer a 5.5" barrel for this piece of ordnance). The only way that they could improve upon this initial concept is if it were carved out of a single billet of ordnance stainless steel.

Darn, this makes me yearn after just such a pistol. Let's see,...  DA/SA action,12 rounds, with a 5.5" slide/barrel arrangment, stainless steel....

I would be in "10mm heaven"!   8)  ;D Gotta love it!
Title: Re: 10mm CZ-97B
Post by: gandog56 on February 04 2016 07:13:41 AM MST
Oh well, yet another 10mm that I want that I will not be able to afford......