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10mm Ammuntion => Reloading 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Nemorivagus on July 31 2020 08:26:39 AM MDT

Title: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Nemorivagus on July 31 2020 08:26:39 AM MDT
Just wanted to post this here. If anyone is looking for 200gr Gold dots for reloading, Rocky Mountain Reloading has them. They say they are brand new blemished but from the photos probably just the older style bullet they are trying to move.
https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/bullets/pistol/40-10mm/40-180-gr-speer-gold-dot-hollow-point-bullets-pulled/
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Kenk on July 31 2020 10:57:58 AM MDT
Thanks, guess it all depends on how blemished they are..and welcome by the way!

Ken
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Nemorivagus on July 31 2020 11:58:42 AM MDT
Thanks Ken,
I put some on order. Who knows when I will get them but when I do I'll post some pictures. I've been out of the 10mm game for a few years. Dove back in with a P220 Legion and reworking loads in the gun.
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: blaster on July 31 2020 03:07:46 PM MDT
dang! I just ordered a bunch of .40 180gr. HST pulled bullets. American Reloading has them  back in stock. 0ther .40 bullets too.
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: coatessey on July 31 2020 07:50:46 PM MDT
Checked them out.  Under description it states:


These are brand new premium bonded bullets. They were sold to us as blems and we were asked not to divulge who made them but they are quite easily recognizeable as one of America's most popular self defense bullets.
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: coatessey on July 31 2020 08:35:05 PM MDT
Does anyone have any blue dot loads worked up for these?
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Kenk on July 31 2020 09:08:09 PM MDT
BD, Lol, one of my all time favorites, I'm sure some of the others can help you out. As for a 180gr XTP or HAP, 10.4gr's is the ticket for accuracy. nothing hot, but man, they are way more accurate than I am.

Ken
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: The_Shadow on July 31 2020 09:31:20 PM MDT
I have used 10.5 grains Of Blue Dot from my guns with good results.  However I have loaded them with 9.4 grains of Longshot, 8.4 grains of BE-86 and also 9.4 grains of IMR800X.

I can get more velocity with the Longshot but the BE-86 is my carry load of choice!
Title: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: coatessey on August 01 2020 06:54:01 AM MDT
Thanks guys.  Shadow I'm assuming you had better accuracy with the BE86 than with the long shot, IMR800X or the blue dot?
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: The_Shadow on August 01 2020 08:22:52 AM MDT
Quote from: coatessey on August 01 2020 06:54:01 AM MDT
Thanks guys.  Shadow I'm assuming you had better accuracy with the BE86 than with the long shot, IMR800X or the blue dot?

They were all fairly accurate given the performance level, the reason for the BE-86 is for the flash suppressed properties. 
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Muskrat on August 02 2020 12:12:16 PM MDT
Where exactly do all these "pulled" bullets come from, anyway?
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: blaster on August 02 2020 01:06:21 PM MDT
Quote from: Muskrat on August 02 2020 12:12:16 PM MDT
Where exactly do all these "pulled" bullets come from, anyway?
good question. they sure sell enough of them!
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: coatessey on August 02 2020 02:05:41 PM MDT
I don't think these are pulled.  Should be brand new. 
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Rick R on August 02 2020 03:48:27 PM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on July 31 2020 09:31:20 PM MDT
I have used 10.5 grains Of Blue Dot from my guns with good results.  However I have loaded them with 9.4 grains of Longshot, 8.4 grains of BE-86 and also 9.4 grains of IMR800X.

I can get more velocity with the Longshot but the BE-86 is my carry load of choice!

Any idea how fast 8.4gr of BE-86 is pushing these 200gr bullets?
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: The_Shadow on August 02 2020 06:53:46 PM MDT
I clocked them at 1237 fps with 8.4 gr BE-86 from the S&W1006 5"
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Nemorivagus on August 07 2020 09:06:51 PM MDT
The bullets showed up faster than I thought. They look good. They don't look like pulled bullets but more like new old stock. I weighed a few from the bag with weights varying from 199.7gr to 201.1gr
Can't wait to load up some these over Longshot and see how they do.

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Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Nemorivagus on August 07 2020 09:08:06 PM MDT
A few more pics

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Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: coatessey on August 07 2020 09:11:09 PM MDT
Mine arrived and they appear to be new as well. 
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Muskrat on August 07 2020 09:12:24 PM MDT
Yup...look like old stock for sure.
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: dryflash on November 04 2020 05:12:11 PM MST
Quote from: blaster on August 02 2020 01:06:21 PM MDT
Quote from: Muskrat on August 02 2020 12:12:16 PM MDT
Where exactly do all these "pulled" bullets come from, anyway?
good question. they sure sell enough of them!

Just got 500 in the other day. No pull marks detected, but I didn't expect any.

They are not shinny bright, just a tad dull. That is what I think is the "second".

I'm not going to bother cleaning them.
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: CtYankee on November 18 2020 11:31:33 AM MST
Ordered 500 yesterday, they haven't been shipped yet. I just got my first 10mm last May (Ruger GP100) and only have loaded up 165 gr. for competition. I just bought some 200 gr lead bullets but haven't tested any loads yet. It is difficult to find any quality JHP's these days so I'm happy these were mentioned here.
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: ssgrock3 on January 14 2021 04:44:10 AM MST
It's a deal, I got some, I never thought you can't or it suggested not pushing these really hard due to weight, but believe I can make some "real" 10mm ammo with them :)


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Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: The_Shadow on January 14 2021 01:07:04 PM MST
My recent load for the 200 gr Gold Dots I did was using BE-86 powder for its flash suppressed properties.
I tested at 8.4 grains making 1235 fps and dropped to 8.3 grains making 1220 fps...

SPEER 200 grain Gold Dot-HP
8.3 grains   BE-86
CCI 300  Large Pistol Primers
Velocity 1220 fps COAL 1.2550"

I know that Longshot and IMR800x can make more velocity but it is what it is...

SPEER 200 grain Gold Dot-HP
9.2 grains   LongShot
CCI 350  Large Pistol Primers
Velocity 1230 fps COAL 1.2550"
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: Graybeard on January 14 2021 02:25:53 PM MST
Quote from: The_Shadow on January 14 2021 01:07:04 PM MST
My recent load for the 200 gr Gold Dots I did was using BE-86 powder for its flash suppressed properties.
I tested at 8.4 grains making 1235 fps and dropped to 8.3 grains making 1220 fps...

SPEER 200 grain Gold Dot-HP
8.3 grains   BE-86
CCI 300  Large Pistol Primers
Velocity 1220 fps COAL 1.2550"

I know that Longshot and IMR800x can make more velocity but it is what it is...

SPEER 200 grain Gold Dot-HP
9.2 grains   LongShot
CCI 350  Large Pistol Primers
Velocity 1230 fps COAL 1.2550"

Magnum primer for the LongShot loading?
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: The_Shadow on January 14 2021 04:40:04 PM MST
Quote from: Graybeard on January 14 2021 02:25:53 PM MST
Quote from: The_Shadow on January 14 2021 01:07:04 PM MST
My recent load for the 200 gr Gold Dots I did was using BE-86 powder for its flash suppressed properties.
I tested at 8.4 grains making 1235 fps and dropped to 8.3 grains making 1220 fps...

SPEER 200 grain Gold Dot-HP
8.3 grains   BE-86
CCI 300  Large Pistol Primers
Velocity 1220 fps COAL 1.2550"

I know that Longshot and IMR800x can make more velocity but it is what it is...

SPEER 200 grain Gold Dot-HP
9.2 grains   LongShot
CCI 350  Large Pistol Primers
Velocity 1230 fps COAL 1.2550"

Magnum primer for the LongShot loading?

Yes I was using the 350 CCI magnum primers for better burn with the dense LongShot powder
Title: Re: 200gr gold dots available
Post by: CtYankee on January 16 2021 01:24:06 PM MST
Hodgdon and Hornady load data for Longshot uses Winchester Large Pistol, which is a multi-purpose standard/magnum primer. WLP primers are reported to generate a little less pressure than other magnum primers, if you use Hodgdon and Hornady data along with WLP primers you should be safe. If you use other magnum primers and other data just be aware that as you get to the high end of the load you may be exceeding the pressures (and velocity) of the published data. I have been using Fed large magnum pistol primers lately because that's what I could get, but I use them in a rather low powered load to meet 120 power factor for ICORE. 5.2 gr of Power Pistol with a magnum primer is 30 fps faster than the same load with a standard Fed primer. I'm not trying to discourage you, part of the fun of reloading is experimentation, but be aware of the potentials and have fun.