too damn hot here. I'll start reloading again when the weather get nice. maybe even make a video ...lol.

I would say no go with both. Best chance would be really light loads with the red dot but not recommended. Maybe red dot with some 135 gr but not 180's.

Do you have any idea how fast your pushing those plated bullets? 1500+ FPS? I have hesitated to continue using them because I would be pushing them past 1400 FPS which is beyond recommended velocity. I do have some PMC 200gr jacketed but not that many.

Quote from: The_Shadow on April 11 2014 08:48:23 AM MDT
Here is a website that has some useful info for various barrel lengths and the velocity as tested...

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/10mm.html

This data is good if your using the same powder and bullet weight as the ones tested. When I try to match up what I got from a 6 inch and then 16 inch I got much larger increases than the chart shows.

I have in my stock now LONGSHOT AND BLUE DOT so it's only a matter of time before I continue, however I'm sure the velocities will exceed the plated bullets limit so I'm stuck at the moment.

Ok so here are the details started with 12.3 and worked up to 12.9 of H110. Had a new primer to try out the Remington 2 1/2 so loaded up those as well as WLP. 220gr bullet from xtreme and mixed once fired brass. MECH TECH 16 INCH BARREL

12.3gr rem2.5 - 1224.3 FPS @ 732 FT LBS
12.3gr WLP - 1226.8 FPS @ 735 FT LBS

12.5gr rem2.5 - 1223.5 FPS @ 731 FT LBS
12.5 gr WLP - 1256.8 FPS @ 772 FT LBS

12.7gr rem2.5 - 1248.8 FPS @ 762 FT LBS
12.7gr WLP - 1279.5 FPS @ 800 FT LBS

12.9gr rem2.5 - 1290.0 FPS @ 813 FT LBS ....... ONE SHOT IN 6 INCH BARREL 1064 FPS@553 FT LBS
12.9gr WLP - 1295.3 FPS @ 820 FT LBS ........ ONE SHOT IN 6 INCH BARREL 1073 FPS@563 FT LBS

Other info on different load tested
Unique 7.9gr WLP primer 180gr bullet
4.6 inch barrel - 1130.2 FPS @ 511 FT LBS
6.0 inch barrel - 1244.0 FPS @ 619 FT LBS
16 inch barrel - 1374.8 FPS @ 756 FT LBS

Just a quick note while I still calculate. The 220gr outperformed the 200gr with less powder as I suspected.

1295.3 FPS @ 820 FT LBS

more later

Well was trying to dial it in to 7.9gr and just when I thought I'd got it set it throws a 7.6 then a few later 8.0, 7.7, 7.8 back and forth. Thats a .5 grain spread is this normal for Unique or for hornady measure?

all 38 and 10mm/40 are 7% off. Code is "7off381040" only good for a week ends March 18th.

I order direct from them. Free shipping and right now they have 7% of code I saw in a email the other day.

I would use blue dot and some other powders, but have not found available locally. Don't want to pay haz mat fee for ordering online, so I'm just working with the powders I have found so far. #9, #7 and blue dot are on my radar for sure.

So 8 gr of Unique with 180 gr was getting me 1143 FPS @ 522 ft lbs and I had no smiles from the glock barrel but I could tell the pressure was high. So that's fine I just load a couple hundred @ 7.9 gr and call it my 500 ft lbs load. Ill have to use my 800X for my 600 ft lbs loads next.

well my expectations were surpassed today testing the 200 gr bullet for the first time. The H110 powder pushed the 200 gr the same and faster than 180 gr in most cases with the equal amounts of powder. This also made the energy increase greatly.

Ran 2 tests with different primers everything else was the same : 200gr RNFP, H110 powder 13.0 - 13.4gr, 1.255 COL and mixed once fired brass. MECH TECH 16 INCH BARREL

Winchester WLP
13.0gr - 1270.3 FPS @ 717 FT LBS
13.2gr - 1311.7 FPS @ 764 FT LBS
13.4gr - 1337.3 FPS @ 794 FT LBS

Federal Magnum #155
13.0gr - 1306.6 FPS @ 758 FT LBS
13.2gr - 1322.9 FPS @ 777 FT LBS
13.4gr - 1329.5 FPS @ 785 FT LBS

Next is the 220 gr

200 and 220's arrived.

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OK thanks, so the conclusion I'm getting to my answer is 180gr @ 600 ft lbs is a no for Unique and yes with about 9 gr of 800X from a glock 20 barrel. Looks like I'll have better luck using Unique with a 135 gr bullet.

So, I have these 180gr bullets I wanted to load up to 1225 fps @ 600 ft lbs with Unique but it looks like I might have to use my 800X instead because it doesn't look like Unique can be pushed that hard.

Can I get some first hand experience using Unique. Is about 525 ft lbs more realistic load?

thanks,