BTW for anybody that?s watching this post. The version I have is the all flattened ball AA#9. With my dies and the 3 different brands of brass I?ve used 12.1 gr will just barely start to make seating plug rings on the 200gr xtps. Any more than that and rounds would be deformed enough I wouldn?t wanna use the load. Albeit it seems I?m getting good velocity with the 12.1 loads as opposed to others using more powder. 1200 fps for a 200gr bullet is plenty hot enough for anything I need to do! Accurate too!