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#1
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: Dang Dang Dang
December 18 2013 08:56:02 AM MST
According to their website they have only two in stock.  Better get 'em fast!
#2
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: witch way to go for 10mm
December 03 2013 07:04:16 PM MST
Quote from: g929 on December 03 2013 08:36:26 AM MST
Quote from: ctrout on December 03 2013 05:53:39 AM MST
I built mine on a Caspian and I love it.  Beautiful gun. 



and this one too can you share whoo bilt it and what parts you have in it thank you nice gun

I built the gun.  It was my very first full build.  I think that I am about $1600 into it as it sits right now.  I got bored with my Para P16-10mm so I decided to start another project. I ordered this frame and slide with every custom option that I wanted and left nothing unaddressed. Even the serial number is custom and has great meaning to me. It consists of my initials, my branch of service, and my Air Force Specialty Code. I am building this gun to commemorate my career which will be coming to a close soon. Enjoy!

With my military discount it came in right at about $800. That's with the hand fitting, integral plunger tube, 25LPI front strap, sight cuts, beavertail radius, custom S/N, AF logo, beveled slide, and tungsten carbide treated frame and slide rails. Caspian offers a significant discount for active duty folks, not just the token 5-10% that many places do. They essentially sell to us at wholesale. I could have afforded full price but it would have taken me just enough longer to save for it that I probably would have gotten discouraged and never went for it. This price really was the sweet spot for me.

I decided to go with a local smith (T.L. Moyers) to fit the Kart barrel rather than increasing my costs by shipping it off.  He's pretty busy with the manufacturing side of his business but he made time for me and did the fitting and chambering in about 10 days.  Nice tight bank vault lock-up and the chamber is now cut to 10mm depth. 

After the barrel was fit, I had  another small amount of cash available to order another batch of parts.  I spent one night fitting everything and it went Soooooo well.  I only fit the parts as needed to get the weapon functioning.  Cosmetic fit will be adjusted once I have everything on hand.  15 minutes on a single cut mill file and the trigger fits like a glove.  I got one of the Cylinder & Slide drop-in trigger kits (3.5 pound) and it truly was drop-in.  Perfect trigger pull with no work required whatsoever.  The mag release took only a few strokes with a ceramic stone to have it operating smoothly. 

The EGW flat bottom FPS took the longest time to fit because there was quite a lot of extra metal at the upper corners that was keeping the piece from seating completely into the slide, thus keeping the firing pin from operating freely.  The FPS took probably 30 minutes to fit.  I went slow at first, five or so strokes on the file, maintaining the proper radius on the corners, then install.  Once I saw how much metal had to come off, I sped up the process with more file strokes and fewer trial fits until I got close, then I went back to fewer strokes and more trial fitting until I got it right.

Next came the thumb safety.  Fitting for the sear engagement was similar to what I did for the FPS.  I went very slow until I got a feel for how fast the metal was coming off.  It took a bit of time but it doesn't allow the sear to move even a little bit.  The other side of the safety, that engages the round cutout of the hammer, only took about 20 strokes with a jeweler's file to fit.  Finally, fitting the groove that accommodates the width of the frame probably took the most time using a jeweler's file again.

I ran out of money before I had all the parts so I cannibalized from 2 other 1911s to get this one functioning.  I borrowed the MSH from my Norinco.  It already had a 25# mainspring installed because it's a 45 Super so the spring rate was appropriate to controlling the unlock timing and slide velocity of my 10mm handloads.  I had to borrow the grip safety from my Kimber Compact Stainless and it functioned correctly with no alteration although it was a horrible cosmetic fit to the frame. 

Since this gun will be a bobtail, I have not ordered the MSH yet.  It, along with the mainspring, is the last part I need to be completely finished with the build.  I will order the jig to cut the frame and the 25LPI checkered housing together when I get the cash (probably shortly after Christmas).

Upon first test firing it, it would not cycle and was single shot only.  I found a problem with the barrel link.  The slide stop hole had either been elongated while cutting the lugs or it had been manufactured incorrectly.  Either way, I changed the link and took it out for another test run and it fed my 180gr XTP handloads at 1150fps and the Winchester 175gr Silvertips with only one failure to go completely into battery.  I believe that this issue was due to the close tolerance of the hard fit barrel and will go away quickly with some break-in.  I have since fired probably about 200 additional rounds of my full power handloads and another handful of the Winchesters without a single malf.

At some point I also got my grip safety in and hand fit it to the gun.  This part has so far been the most time consuming.  I had to take quite a bit of metal off the tang even though it was pre-radiused by Caspian.  This probably took the longest.  After the radius was right, I was able to install the thumb safety to keep it in the gun for the blending.  Blending the top went very well and pretty quick because it was easy to maintain a nice radius with a Dremel tool and then with a piece of PVC wrapped in 600 grit paper.  the hard part was blending the back into the frame without changing the bevel on the frame itself.  I touched it a time or two with the files but only I am aware that it's not perfect (well, I guess you all know now too).  Unless I told you to look for it, you may never notice the blemish.

Parts:
Adjustable rear Novak style sight, Caspian P/N S24ND
Serrated .190" front sight, Caspian P/N S23NS
Cylinder and Slide drop-in trigger pull set (hammer, sear, disconnecter, sear spring)
20lb recoil spring, Wolff stock no 41920
Ed Brown match grade extractor
Ed Brown Hardcore slide stop
Ed Brown NM trigger
Ed Brown stainless pin kit
Ed Brown tactical style extended safety
Wilson Combat two-piece guide rod
Wilson Combat Bullet Proof firing pin
Wilson Combat Bullet Proof mag release
Wilson Combat Shok-Buff
Kart Barrel, 5" 40 S&W cut to 10mm
VZ Grips Operators II black/grey
VZ grips Turbo Blackwash grip screws

#3
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: witch way to go for 10mm
December 03 2013 05:53:39 AM MST
I built mine on a Caspian and I love it.  Beautiful gun. 


#4
Reloading / Re: First time reloader - Best tip?
December 02 2013 06:03:36 PM MST
Buy a chronograph.  I hear newbies all the time talking about the velocities that they are getting and then I ask them what chrono they are using and they tell me they don't have one.  They are merely spouting out the velocities listed in the manual for the charge they have selected (usually the max load).  Unless you are using a chrono, you have no idea what the true velocity is and as often as not, the velocity may be noticeably higher than the book states, indicating the possibility of overpressure.  The chrono is an essential safety tool imho.