Quote from: sep on October 11 2022 07:56:28 AM MDTCouldn't see either attachment. Hickok45 has a video shooting 220 hardcast through a stock Glock 20 and the bullet keyholed. I would test them before I carried them for defensive purposes. I carry a 200 grain WFNGC for bear defense. I'm confident a CNS hit with them will stop a bear.