I made some time on Saturday afternoon to test some 165 grain reloads I was working up, and also to run some of my "old standby" 180 grain and 200 grain loads with the labradar.  I was shooting my RIA 1911A2 Rock Ultra FS HC.  Gun was flawless except for twice I pushed the slide stop up.

Powder	Bullet	Weight	COAL	Charge	Exp Velocity	Exp Energy	GRT Pressure	GRT Velocity	Actual Velocity	Actual Energy
------------------------	------------------------	-------------	--------------	--------------------	--------------------	----------------------	----------------------	--------------------	---------------------	--------------------
AA7	Federal HST	165	1.255"	11	1160	493	28500	1244	1216.4	542
AA7	Federal HST	165	1.255"	11.4	1289	609	31663	1289	1263.4	585
AA7	Federal HST	165	1.255"	11.4	1334	652	35194	1334	1283.8	604
AA7	Federal HST	165	1.255"	11.8	1379	697	39146	1379	1312.4	631
BE-86	Federal HST	165	1.255"	12.2	1290	610			1263.4	585
BE-86	Federal HST	165	1.255"	8.8	1320	638			1251.6	574
BE-86	Federal HST	165	1.255"	9	1344	662			1303.2	622
Power Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.255"	9.2	1265	586	33245	1301	1249.8	572
Power Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.255"	9.6	1285	605	36909	1353	1300.4	619
Power Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.255"	10	1314	632	40891	1407	1339.0	657
Longshot	Nosler JHP	200	1.260"	8	1172	610	41715	1166	1189.0	628
Blue Dot	Hornady XTP	180	1.255"	10.9	1160	538	35904	1205	1308.6	684

I must admit I was a little disappointed in the Power Pistol and AA7 results with the 165 grain bullets. I was hoping for closer to 1400 fps without exceeding the published max.

The Nosler 200 grain and XTP 180 grain are solid results though.  And I have plenty of those. 

40 S&W Testing

I think I will save the 165 grain HST's for 40 S&W. I think 1100 fps is a better velocity for their construction profile anyway.  Here were the result of that testing, also from Saturday.  Test gun was a Beretta 96:

Powder	Bullet	Weight	COAL	Charge	Exp Velocity	Exp Energy	GRT Pressure	GRT Velocity	Actual Velocity	Actual Energy
------------------------	------------------------	-------------	--------------	--------------------	--------------------	----------------------	----------------------	--------------------	---------------------	--------------------
CFE Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.125"	Charge	1038	395	26427	1072	949.0	330
CFE Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.125"	6.0	1149	484	35373	1183	1076.2	424
Longshot	Federal HST	165	1.125"	6.8	1139	475	33002	1172	1124.8	463
Longshot	Federal HST	165	1.125"	7.3	1185	514	38938	1237	1169.0	501
Power Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.125"	7.8	980	352	27693	1140	1014.4	377
Power Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.125"	7.4	1030	389	31767	1195	1054.2	407
Power Pistol	Federal HST	165	1.125"	7.8	1080	427	36329	1252	1128.8	467
Silhouette	Federal HST	165	1.125"	5.9	942	325	24392	1039	840.5	259
Silhouette	Federal HST	165	1.125"	6.4	1022	383	29392	1111	966.5	342
Silhouette	Federal HST	165	1.125"	6.9	1101	444	35157	1179	998.8	365
W231	Lee 401-175 SWC	175	1.125"	5.2	984	376	23170	989	1018.8	403

I question the results with Silhouette.  I had two duds in those strings as well.  The brass I was using was once fired brass I got when I bought out a retiring reloader.  The brass was already primed and I think they may not be as "fresh" as I might have hoped.  I will probably re-run those test series with S&B small rifle primers.  I would love to get close the published or GRT velocities for that powder as it is readily available in my area, and not too spendy.

Barrel Races and Thoughts

Finally I did some "barrel racing" pitting the 5" RIA against a Glock 29's 3.8" barrel using Magtech 180 grain FMJ.  RIA deliverd 1213 over 5 shots, Glock 29 delivered 1137.  Lost 76 fps from the shorter barrel.

Also tested the Beretta 96's 4.9" barrel against the Glock 27's 3.4" barrel using the 175 grain Lee load.  1019 from the longer barrel, 966 from the shorter barrel - a loss of 53 fps.

I would also note that the Glock 29 delivered over 100 fps more than the Beretta 96 shooting effectively the same weight bullet.  Nothing we don't know, but it is a solid reminder that a 10mm compact gun delivers full size performance.

Weather was a bit brisk, outside temp was around 60 F with a pretty strong breeze. I have finally figured out a setup that keeps my brass out of orbit. As amazing as this sounds, I came home with ALL my 10mm brass. Next time I have it set up I will get a picture of the circus needed to make that happen.

It was a good day of shooting, and it has created a fair bit of unloaded brass to process.

Good for Kevin!  Seems like just yesterday they started shipping boutique ammo.

Quote from: crockett on October 05 2025 02:13:09 PM MDTI have zero crashes or insurance claims on my record. My premium should be going down every year.

Amen brother.  I have never been "at fault" in an accident.  I have been rear-ended twice, both times while stopped.  No claims and only one ticket in 40 years of licensed driving (more like 45 years of actual driving - farm life).  That ticket was 17-18 years ago and was unjust (cited for failure to stop, but the cop couldn't see the intersection clearly from his vantage - I stopped at the line, then crept forward past a hedge to be able to see if it was clear and then went, which he saw as a roll and go since he couldn't see the stop).

Insurance is set up to get money, not to actually insure people.

Quote from: 10 Round on October 04 2025 08:10:41 PM MDTNo paranoia is ignorance let's get back to firearms and ammo

In fairness, this is the "Off Topic - Anything but firearms" area.

Quote from: John A. on October 05 2025 07:29:57 AM MDTI think it was progressive that "let" you drive around with their little gadget plugged into your cigarette lighter for a month to base your insurance rates on your driving.

That was voluntary though.

Lot different when you're being spied on involuntarily and even worse when the company is profiting from it.  Sadly, I'd bet that even if they were fined, GM still made money from it.  That's how it usually works.

Crockett, I remember reading a very good thread on akfiles from someone that formerly worked for the state department who detailed how to disconnect all the tracking crap in their GM vehicles because they would often be traveling or escorting dignitaries or other sensitive things and they would disconnect all of the onstar stuff because it was a security issue for them.

There is a downloadable pdf file that details the steps to be taken in the topic. 

https://www.akfiles.com/forums/threads/disable-tracking-on-gm-vehicles-with-onstar.522468/

If they were concerned that their (governments) privacy was being compromised, why anyone would think it's OK for THEIR privacy to be compromised and was acceptable? 

Yeah, its petty easy to locate the module and pull the GSM / WIFI / BT card out. Some just unplug the antennas but that doesn't cut it. When I GSM tower is close enough, it will still establish connection with the traces on the board that also act as an antenna.

They need to be careful with posting photos and details, because it will also eliminate the crash based auto 911 call. You will give up some safety that could save your life if nobody else sees your crash and call in for help.

GM for sure still made a profit, and I could care less about that. But I don't want my insurance rates to go up, just because some algorithm considers me a higher risk just because I pushed it a for a few seconds on a highway ramp with nobody being around, or being penalized for doing an evasive maneuver because somebody was about to hit me.

I'm sure my premium would be much higher based on GPS and location data. But the reality is, I have zero crashes or insurance claims on my record. My premium should be going down every year.

I think it was progressive that "let" you drive around with their little gadget plugged into your cigarette lighter for a month to base your insurance rates on your driving.

That was voluntary though.

Lot different when you're being spied on involuntarily and even worse when the company is profiting from it.  Sadly, I'd bet that even if they were fined, GM still made money from it.  That's how it usually works.

Crockett, I remember reading a very good thread on akfiles from someone that formerly worked for the state department who detailed how to disconnect all the tracking crap in their GM vehicles because they would often be traveling or escorting dignitaries or other sensitive things and they would disconnect all of the onstar stuff because it was a security issue for them.

There is a downloadable pdf file that details the steps to be taken in the topic. 

https://www.akfiles.com/forums/threads/disable-tracking-on-gm-vehicles-with-onstar.522468/

If they were concerned that their (governments) privacy was being compromised, why anyone would think it's OK for THEIR privacy to be compromised and was acceptable? 

Quote from: 10 Round on October 04 2025 08:10:41 PM MDTNo paranoia is ignorance let's get back to firearms and ammo

GM sold driver data to insurance companies, harvested through their OnStar system that is installed in EVERY GM vehicle, and then the insurance companies raised premiums on drivers, based on their driving style, without consent. The FEDERAL TC caught and fined GM, I linked it, and you call that paranoia?

I started this thread and the topic is "Today's cars" in the "Off topic" area of the forum, and not "firearms and ammo".

How about you f off from my topic?

No paranoia is ignorance let's get back to firearms and ammo

Quote from: 10 Round on October 04 2025 07:25:39 PM MDTWTF what's with all the paranoia who gives a rat's ass I'm half dead already

Ignorance is bliss. For some at least.

WTF what's with all the paranoia who gives a rat's ass I'm half dead already