BE86 - 180g Xtreme - G20 step-up loads

Started by Geeman, July 17 2016 02:37:20 PM MDT

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Geeman

Finally getting round to exploring the BE-86 powder in 10MM

Gun - Glock 20 Gen4 100% stock
Brass - mixed head stamp
Primer - CCI300
Powder - Alliant BE-86
Bullet - Xtreme 180g plated HP
OAL - 1.255"

8.4g
Shot ID   V0
1   1143
2   1193
3   1186
4   1176
5   1182
6   1133
7   1151
8   1165
9   1164
10   1159

Stats - Average   1165.3   fps
Stats - Highest   1192.84   fps
Stats - Lowest   1133.39   fps
Stats - Spread   59.44   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   19.14   fps

8.5g
Only 5 shots because I wasted 10 by not creating a new series.
Shot ID   V0
1   1170
2   1219
3   1186
4   1186
5   1182

Stats - Average   1188.55   fps
Stats - Highest   1218.92   fps
Stats - Lowest   1169.74   fps
Stats - Spread   49.19   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   18.24   fps

8.6g
Shot ID   V0
1   1200
2   1213
3   1199
4   1183
5   1201
6   1203
7   1193
8   1172
9   1206
10   1195

Stats - Average   1196.35   fps
Stats - Highest   1213.38   fps
Stats - Lowest   1171.64   fps
Stats - Spread   41.75   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   11.92   fps

8.7g
Shot ID   V0
1   1212
2   1208
3   1207
4   1184
5   1206
6   1207
7   1204
8   1231
9   1233
10   1194

Stats - Average   1208.53   fps
Stats - Highest   1232.51   fps
Stats - Lowest   1184.46   fps
Stats - Spread   48.05   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   14.52   fps

8.8g
Shot ID   V0
1   1193
2   1196
3   1216
4   1221
5   1221
6   1222
7   1244
8   1214
9   1251
10   1206

Stats - Average   1218.41   fps
Stats - Highest   1251.23   fps
Stats - Lowest   1192.61   fps
Stats - Spread   58.62   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   18.45   fps

I shot with the Glock because it shows pressure signs before the rest of my 10mm choices.

No smiles - case expansion .433 for the hottest load.  It looks like there is more room for powder, and I'd say that these aren't max yet.

They say BE-86 is flash suppressed.  There were some fairly impressive fireballs with these loads!

Greg


The_Shadow

#1
Thanks Greg great range report and interesting numbers...
Matches the Sig Sauer 1800 FMJ loadings pretty close, my testing of the pulled and reloaded showed

Glock 29 21lbs Spring  velocity     1178    case expansion    0.4315"
Glock 20 22lbs Spring  velocity    1250            0.4315"
Glock 20 22lbs Spring  velocity    1260            0.4315"
S&W 1006 22lbs Spring velocity    1276            0.4265"
S&W 1006 22lbs Spring velocity    1286            0.4270"

The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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Geeman

BE-86 is a very useful powder.  I don't feel the top load tested is anywhere near a maximum load.  I'll still need to notch it up a bit more, but I think it would be wise to use virgin brass.  I'd like to know what is possible with this powder and see how it ranks with 800X and Longshot.

The Labradar data is easy to report.  I just need to copy off an excel file on the SD card and paste it here.  Pretty sweet setup.  80 rounds of 10mm, 50 rounds of 9mm in 14 series, all in an hour and 10 minutes, and that is picking up brass between series.  It took less time that cleaning up the 3 guns I got dirty :))

Greg

PCFlorida

Great range report Greg. I just purchased 8 lbs of BE86 a couple weeks ago but haven't had time to start loading for it yet. I'm anxious to see how your further development goes.
NRA Life Member

Geeman

More steps up.

My word of warning, I'm above any loads from any book.  Work your loads up yourself.

Gun - Glock 20 Gen4 100% stock
Brass - mixed head stamp
Primer - CCI300
Powder - Alliant BE-86
Bullet - Xtreme 180g plated HP
OAL - 1.255"

8.9g

Stats - Average   1238.73   fps
Stats - Highest   1253.95   fps
Stats - Lowest   1225.32   fps
Stats - Spread   28.62   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   11.43   fps

Shot ID   V0
1   1225
2   1240
3   1230
4   1244
5   1254


9.0g

Stats - Average   1232.23   fps
Stats - Highest   1247.87   fps
Stats - Lowest   1213.96   fps
Stats - Spread   33.91   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   14.7   fps

Shot ID   V0
1   1248
2   1242
3   1220
4   1214
5   1238

9.1g
Stats - Average   1250.66   fps
Stats - Highest   1291.43   fps
Stats - Lowest   1229.49   fps
Stats - Spread   61.93   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   24.69   fps

Shot ID   V0
1   1229
2   1233
3   1291
4   1248
5   1251

9.2g
Stats - Average   1257.64   fps
Stats - Highest   1279.48   fps
Stats - Lowest   1231.02   fps
Stats - Spread   48.46   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   21.55   fps

Shot ID   V0
1   1231
2   1279
3   1278
4   1257
5   1242

9.3g
Stats - Average   1270.09   fps
Stats - Highest   1316.36   fps
Stats - Lowest   1244.66   fps
Stats - Spread   71.7   fps
Stats - Std. Dev   28.41   fps

Shot ID   V0
1   1272
2   1245
3   1249
4   1316
5   1268

Case expansion .433" on the 9.3g load.

Its getting there.  No indication of a smile yet.  My slide stopped locking back on the last three shots, so I have to figure out what happened there.

I'll keep on stepping up.  Starting to feel like a real 10mm load, but there seems to be more room.  I thought I'd be pulling some bullets, but all went well up to this point.

Good 10mm powder.

Greg

The_Shadow

Thanks again Greg, for another great report.  Yes I would have to agree that the BE-86 is a great powder for the 10mm and many other cartridges.
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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