Winchester 9mm USANATO

[Rick R]

Does anyone know if the 150 round boxes of Winchester 124gr "USANATO" ammo that Walmart sells is the same as Winchester Q4318?  At $28 / 150 my "grocery" bill may increase when I go shopping without the Minister of Finance.

[The_Shadow]

The pull down from a while back showed:
Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Winchester 124 gr NATO FMJ
Ballistics Information: 9mm
Muzzle Velocity:1185 fps
Muzzle Energy: 387 ft. lbs
Pictures: Before/After disassembly:
Brass Make/Headstamp: WCC 12 & WCC 12 – Brass NATO cross
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.5950"/Dia. 0.3550": NATO FMJ 125gr.  Actual weight 124.2 grains exposed lead base
C.O.A.L.: 1.1545" & 1.1545"
Primer: Brass color crimped primers
Case: Diameter 0.3860" Crimp Diameter 0.3760" Length 0.7510"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: very fine flatten ball/flake? 6.0 grains (proprietary powder)??

Pressure ratings
Std 35,000 psi
NATO 36,500 psi

[Rick R]

The_Shadow

Thanks!  I didn't find that with my initial search of the site, but figured one of you gentlemen had probably dissected some.

What I purchased is headstamped "WMA 19" with the NATO cross. The box claims a FMJ exposed lead based bullet at 1200fps.  Sounds like they rounded up. 

My BHP with Mr Novak's sights puts the Q load into the same group at 25 yards as the Speer factory 124gr Gold Dot +P, Winchester's 124gr PDX-1 load  and my own handloaded 124gr Gold Dot.  It'll be nice to buy them while grocery shopping for about the same price as online and by pass trying to beat the porch pirates to my ammo.

[Kenk]

It's so true : )

[Univibe]

It's good stuff.  Q4318 is my carry ammo.