10mm Bear protection in Europe

[Sadka]

Thanks for your assistance John.Its all clear for me .Excuse my English please I probably didn't make myself clear.I was asking in which cases the bullet should be seated at 1255 length or 1260.I noticed that the bullet length could vary between 1250 and 1260.
Am i wrong about it?

[Sadka]

I always carry a can of bear spray with me but Im not allowed to carry shotgun being in the mountain ( although i have been licensed hunter for 2 years now)
I will keep you posted about my first attempts for
reloading.

[Kenk]

Also, there would almost have to be some small companies like our Underwood in the states that offer hotter hunting ammo. I would assume there are plenty of hunters in your neck of the woods, and many probably do not reload. I?m not sure of the shipping laws in Europe, but there has to be places that offer this type of ammo

[Sadka]

Even if I find some hot ammo in Germany or In the Netherlands.Im not allowed to buy it online.Online deliveries are considered illegal  :'(

[John A.]

Thanks for your assistance John.Its all clear for me .Excuse my English please I probably didn't make myself clear.I was asking in which cases the bullet should be seated at 1255 length or 1260.I noticed that the bullet length could vary between 1250 and 1260.
Am i wrong about it?

Do not apologize for your English.  It's fine.

When seating a bullet, it's generally better to seat it at whatever the published data calls for.  That's the seating depth that has been tested.

There are maximum lengths that you can make.  This is determined from a lot of factors like the shape of the bullet.  The gunpowder that you are using, and the pressures involved with everything.  Everything depends on everything else.

There will also be a point where you don't want to seat a long bullet deeper too, because that may compress the gun powder when the bullet goes down inside of the brass case, and that can cause pressure spikes, and ultimately blow up the gun if it's too bad.  So, making ammunition does have inherent dangers and you'd need to be careful to make them properly.

But, I'll give you an example from this page here:
https://www.10mm-firearms.com/reloading-10mm-ammo/10mm-load-data-from-over-the-years/

10mm Auto
Speer 180 gr PHP bullet
10.5 gr AA#7 powder
1.250" cartridge overall length (COL)

In the recipe above, the bullet and the cartridge overall length measured from end to end is 1.250"

When making a bullet from a specific recipe, it's important that you don't change anything about it.

I don't want to get into advanced hypothetical things, but this is generally the easiest answer for someone who is just beginning to reload.

[Kenk]

Sadka, like I had mentioned earlier when we spoke, just be careful, and hopefully find a mentor that?s been reloading for awhile. I?m basically saying you have to respect what your working with. Reloading is a great hobby, but, if you get sloppy, it will inevitably bite you. a double powder charge in any caliber will cause a kaboom, but in 10mm, it?ll be kaboom city.  The bottom line, built in some fail safes into your process, and do it the same way every time. It?s a fun and rewarding hobby, you just have to watch your stuff. I do all my 10mm reloading on a single stage Rock Chucker press, weighing each charge individually, the end product, match grade ammo that I built
Enjoy your new hobby and be safe

Ken

[Sadka]

Thanks for the detailed and clear explanation John.Congratulations on your English and the way you express yourself.Obviosly you are very intelligent and clever person.By the way Im self educated in English  .It was pleasure chatting with you tonight.Im going to bed now. Have a good day or evening and stay in touch please .

[John A.]

Anyone that can teach themselves English (or any language that isn't their native tongue) are smart.

It's been nice meeting and speaking with you as well sir.

Best of luck to you.

[Kenk]

As for the ability to secure a shotgun and slugs, is that a possibility?  Also, you should find out when cubs are around with momma bear and avoid hiking certain areas at those times?unless of course you are carrying a some FIM-92 Stingers that is😀

[John A.]

Kenk, once a (black bear) sow has cubs, they often stay with them for the biggest part of a year and a half.  So, while your thought was a good suggestion, it's not really feasible to stay out of the woods until they're grown and get away from mom.

I also think he commented earlier that he can't use a shotgun.

Although that would be a great defensive tool.  And to be honest, is my primary carry when I check my trail cams.

[Kenk]

Thanks John, I didn?t realize that about the cubs, kinda blows that idea. As for the no shotguns allowed, and no mail order ammunition, I makes me realize how good we still have it. I?m sure the ding dongs in Washington are working on that one as we speak

[John A.]

Yeah, they are.

[The_Shadow]

Consider turning a copper solid on a lathe?  Federal makes a good Jacketed 200 grain soft point that would work well!

[blaster]

what is wrong with just using a 200 gr. FMJ flat nosed bullet? I'm sure the copper (guiding metal) jacket is as hard as "hard cast" lead and will not deform and penetrate as deep as the same weight "hard cast" bullet. I've dug many out of dirt/rock backstops that almost look like they could be loaded again.

[Sadka]

I really hope 200 gr FMJ would work because I don't see any other options for now .