Crossfire Ammunition?

4949shooter · October 18 2013 03:52:16 PM MDT

Yes. I take back my earlier statement that the Omega was a 5 incher. Definitely more than 5"...like you said probably 6".

Intercooler · October 19 2013 09:44:34 AM MDT

Great time this morning just me for about two hours, so I took full advantage!

I don't have but about 5-6 weeks of good shooting weather before I have to call it quits for the year.

These were kind of pricey but most of the all copper rounds by any MFG are. After shooting these I have to say these over Buffalo Bore or anyone else making the all coppers currently. Maybe the .357's could use a little more Mustard but damn they shot good!! The recoil kind of shocked me because none felt all that bad. As a matter of fact the 10mm rounds I thought maybe something was wrong but all the readings were perfect MFG after MFG in all platforms. I can't wait to see Andrew smash the gel with these

Black Max .357 Magnum 125gr (GP100 6") 1433, 1446, 1463. Average = 1447.33 FPS/ 582 LBS

Black Max .44 Magnum 225gr (Redhawk 7.5") 1502, 1494, 1539. Average = 1511.66 FPS/ 1142 LBS

Black Max 10mm 140gr (EAA Limited Pro 4.75") 1607, 1600, 1600, 1604. Average = 1602.75 FPS/ 799 LBS. This is about the tightest spread I have ever seen!

Black Max 10mm 140gr (EAA Hunter 6") 1644, 1634, 1630, 1638. Average = 1636.5 FPS/ 833 LBS. Very tight again.

No wonder it's a popular Helicopter Hog round. Can't wait to see what's inside for powder.

Intercooler · October 19 2013 09:49:32 AM MDT

Looking at the 10mm in particular the CED Chrony is as stated... crappy! No wonder the reviews on Midway say pass it by.

I guess I should share my results with Milo. His flap ratings are a little off ${$default_shocked_smiley}$

The_Shadow · October 19 2013 09:54:35 AM MDT

Very nice! Tight is right... ${$default_cool_smiley}$ Interesting performance for sure with the 10mm ant the 140 gr. ${$default_grin_smiley}$
Well its raining here this morning ahead of the cool front... ${$default_sad_smiley}$

Intercooler · October 19 2013 10:01:12 AM MDT

I did some others since it was just me.

Underwood Ammo 180gr TMJ (EAA Hunter 6") 1375, 1377, 1366, 1370, 1386. Average = 1374.8 FPS/ 756 LBS
Armscor 180gr FMJ (EAA Limited Pro 4.75") 1150, 1157, 1165, 1164, 1151. Average = 1157.4 FPS/ 535 LBS

Parabellum Research Ammo 240gr FMJ Velocity Supreme (Redhawk 7.5") 1437, 1423, 1457, 1452, 1487. Average = 1451.2 FPS/ 1122 LBS

American Eagle 158gr JSP (GP100 6") 1316, 1314, 1329, 1309, 1322, 1318. Average = 1318 FPS/ 610 LBS

Magtech 115gr FMJ (EAA Elite Limited 4.75") 1224, 1214, 1198, 1222, 1208. Average = 1213.2 FPS/ 376 LBS
Remington 115gr FMJ (EAA Elite Limited 4.75") 1158, 1134, 1147, 1136, 1146. Average = 1144.2 FPS/ 334 LBS
Fiocchi 115gr FMJ (EAA Elite Limited 4.75") 1212, 1153, 1240, 1175, 1221. Average = 1200.2 FPS/ 368 LBS

Intercooler · October 19 2013 10:04:38 AM MDT

It's the weirdest thing how those 10mm rounds felt. The Armscor felt real similar in comparison moving much slower. They will get a repeat order out of me for sure and possibly soon to get those Grenade rounds.

Intercooler · October 19 2013 10:16:33 AM MDT

That is the second highest velocity round behind Kevin's (NFP) 155 TMJ. 1660 FPS versus 1637 FPS out of the Hunter. Smokers!

Intercooler · October 19 2013 11:08:08 AM MDT

** Word of caution here**

Just measured the 10mm Black Max cases. Most were .432" with one being .436" to the right. Primers appear flattened but not the worst I have seen. Use with great support only!!!

4949shooter · October 19 2013 11:10:39 AM MDT

Any bulges? The brass appears to be in decent shape?

Intercooler · October 19 2013 11:27:51 AM MDT

Just the one laying down where you can see a little of the feed ramp. That's the .436" one.

4949shooter · October 19 2013 11:30:57 AM MDT

Oh okay, I see it now.

Bummer. I won't be the first to try this ammo in a Glock.

Intercooler · October 19 2013 11:39:00 AM MDT

All the others were .432" which compares to .429" measurements I got with Underwood 1300 (180's).

Intercooler · October 19 2013 11:40:55 AM MDT

If you have good support it should be fine. That is the only piece with this out of the 8 fired. All the rest don't look different than the other hot stuff I have fired.

The_Shadow · October 19 2013 11:44:34 AM MDT

Looks good enough for me to run it in the Glock, although they may not be worth reloading afterwards! $:-\$

I see you're getting a little firing pin wipe as the barrel is dropping out of lock, not that big a deal. It may cause some firing pin wear over time. ${$default_roll_eyes_smiley}$

Intercooler · October 19 2013 11:48:41 AM MDT

They have always done that but these actually look better than many others with bigger wipes.

About the brass... can it be reused? Would you want these for anything?

What is your guess on the powder and charge? It didn't seem to have the sonic boom of Power Pistol when it exits the barrel. I'm real curious what's in there.