VLTOR No Sales Letter

The_Shadow · March 01 2013 04:20:24 PM MST

I wrote a comment: Still No Bren Ten's...What's the use!
Their reply:
Vltor Wade- We know that there has been much delay in the Bren project, but we are anticipating a press release about the progress we have made and an anticipated release date this year.

REDLINE · March 01 2013 05:53:28 PM MST

I don't see the benefit or gain. But it's their choice and maybe I'm missing something.

Do any Gov't Agencies/LE use Vltor products?

Intercooler · March 01 2013 06:12:15 PM MST

I wish more gun companies would not sell to LEO if the people are restricted. Love it!

EdMc · March 01 2013 07:44:54 PM MST

Really, unless the major companies join the 'boycott' it doesn't mean much. Companies that do move from these states will make a statement.

4949shooter · March 02 2013 03:41:17 AM MST

I can understand them not wanting to sell to LE agencies of the offending states. Hey, maybe that will put us back to H&K. ${$default_wink_smiley}$

I do have a problem with them not selling to individual officers though. So, because I am an LEO in NJ I can't buy a Vltor product? Why is this legislation my fault? I am hurt by it as much as anybody else.

REDLINE · March 02 2013 10:04:59 AM MST

Quote from: 4949shooter on March 02 2013 03:41:17 AM MSTI do have a problem with them not selling to individual officers though. So, because I am an LEO in NJ I can't buy a Vltor product? Why is this legislation my fault? I am hurt by it as much as anybody else.

I'm not LE but was thinking the same. Just because one is employed by the bureaucracy doesn't mean they hold a similar overall viewpoint regarding the legislation they've passed by majority to make it happen. And maybe my thought is wrong on this, but when the average LEO is off the clock, aren't they at least loosely back to non LEO status again? Anyway, it doesn't seem right to me.

4949shooter · March 02 2013 12:07:36 PM MST

Quote from: REDLINE on March 02 2013 10:04:59 AM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on March 02 2013 03:41:17 AM MSTI do have a problem with them not selling to individual officers though. So, because I am an LEO in NJ I can't buy a Vltor product? Why is this legislation my fault? I am hurt by it as much as anybody else.

I'm not LE but was thinking the same. Just because one is employed by the bureaucracy doesn't mean they hold a similar overall viewpoint regarding the legislation they've passed by majority to make it happen. And maybe my thought is wrong on this, but when the average LEO is off the clock, aren't they at least loosely back to non LEO status again? Anyway, it doesn't seem right to me.

Technically we are "on duty" 24/7. But I can count the times on one hand I have gotten involved off duty in my 24 years of service time.

I just don't know what the individual officer has to do with the legislation. It's like they are punishing the wrong people.

EdMc · March 02 2013 12:23:57 PM MST

Quote from: 4949shooter on March 02 2013 12:07:36 PM MST
Quote from: REDLINE on March 02 2013 10:04:59 AM MST
Quote from: 4949shooter on March 02 2013 03:41:17 AM MSTI do have a problem with them not selling to individual officers though. So, because I am an LEO in NJ I can't buy a Vltor product? Why is this legislation my fault? I am hurt by it as much as anybody else.

I'm not LE but was thinking the same. Just because one is employed by the bureaucracy doesn't mean they hold a similar overall viewpoint regarding the legislation they've passed by majority to make it happen. And maybe my thought is wrong on this, but when the average LEO is off the clock, aren't they at least loosely back to non LEO status again? Anyway, it doesn't seem right to me.

Technically we are "on duty" 24/7. But I can count the times on one hand I have gotten involved off duty in my 24 years of service time.

I just don't know what the individual officer has to do with the legislation. It's like they are punishing the wrong people.

I agree with you on this. I don't have a link but I read somewhere of a response from Magpul addressing just this issue. Personally I see no point in punishing individual LEOs for government legislation. It's hardly their fault. As I stated above manufacturers leaving states with draconian laws makes more of a statement............hell, in this area good jobs are very scarce. For a company to move requires spending capital and serious economic risk.

Sadly, we are becoming two countries that share the same language and government. Gun control only being one of the issues with totally opposing views/beliefs. Doesn't bode well for our future.

4949shooter · March 02 2013 02:37:25 PM MST

Yep...it most definately doesn't bode well for the future.

sqlbullet · March 03 2013 08:50:24 AM MST

I think it sucks too, not selling to individuals.

But, to accomplish their objective of denying governement agencies access to the benefits of their product, this is needed. Otherwise the departments will just add VLTOR products to the list of approved private weapons officers can use on duty. The may even implement reimbursement programs for officers that buy them and use them on company time.

4949shooter · March 03 2013 09:42:22 AM MST

I actually agree with not selling to the government agencies. It bothers me they would hurt the individual LEO though.