Could some one please explain to me the real world difference in the 220 UW/BB Hard Cast and Double-Tap/Beartooth 200 Gr Hard Cast Bullet. There is some frontal area difference but will it really make that big of a difference?
20gr difference in weight.
Doug
The DT's cast bullets are usually a gas checked projectiles...
Although the gas check is not totally necessary, it can help protect the edges of the bullet and bore from leading. Proper bullet size (0.0015" - 0.0020") overbore diameter is the most important element to stability and less leading along with quality lube.
Nothing beats proper impact placement, to reach vitals on its track through the intended target! :o
So UW does not use has checked bullets?
You can see what was found in the Pull-Down Section of each of the brands...http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/ (http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/)
BB and UW were without GC's...
I suppose the Beartooth bullet is a little better with the Meplat and gas check. It will still go through a bunch of horse meat ;D If PBR gets their version of it loaded up those would be better yet! The 220's should drive a little deeper with the increased weight. What are you gearing up for?
I have a local source of 200gr Beartooth loaded to about 1150 FPS,Granite Ammo. Both loads shoot well for me and I can get the beartooths for 38.00 per 50 or go with UW for 39.99 plus shipping. Just trying to see in real world application if the UW would be better for woods carry.
I'll make one comment that may apply.
I have a Gen4 Glock 20 that now eats everything EXCEPT Underwood 220 hard cast that might hit 50% FTF. If your running one, that might be a deciding factor.
Greg
I think your local connection is a darn good one and no shipping. Kevin has been asked about offering the 200gr Beartooth and the Barnes all copper lines. Hopefully we see those in the not too distant future.
Thanks for all the help guys. I like the idea of buying local and will just stay with them.
When I spoke with the guy at Granite he sounded like a great 10mm guy (hey... he owns a Match!). I would imagine he would load up the 220's for you to a similar loading we have in the archives here. All that would be needed is purchasing the Rimrock 220's for him.
Quote from: MT10mm on June 01 2014 06:01:22 AM MDT
Thanks for all the help guys. I like the idea of buying local and will just stay with them.
Having a good, local supplier is awesome.
On another note, do we have any idea when Underwood will be getting the 165 grain tmj's back in stock?
PBR has 165's in the V-Supreme version right now.
Yes I know thanks. My gun seems to like the Underwood better.
If you could carry anything you wanted and over penetration didnt matter would these wide meplat beartooth 200gr hardcasts be the best stopper even when compared to say a 200gr xtp?
Quote from: Geeman on May 31 2014 09:18:16 PM MDT
I'll make one comment that may apply.
I have a Gen4 Glock 20 that now eats everything EXCEPT Underwood 220 hard cast that might hit 50% FTF. If your running one, that might be a deciding factor.
Greg
Your comment follows what Hickok45 had in one of his recent videos; the 200gr HC worked fine, however, the 220gr HC wanted to tumble out of the G20G4. IIRC, it was UW he was using.
Quote from: mag360 on June 03 2014 01:07:30 PM MDT
If you could carry anything you wanted and over penetration didnt matter would these wide meplat beartooth 200gr hardcasts be the best stopper even when compared to say a 200gr xtp?
Hard cast would not be my first choice as a man stopper. I would pick the 200gr Nosler HP over the XTP as a all around load.