Crossfire Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide) Pull-Down

Started by The_Shadow, December 04 2013 09:21:57 PM MST

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The_Shadow

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Crossfire  Grenade 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide)
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1700 fps
Muzzle Energy: 802 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Star Line – Brass (Black Oxide)
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6350"/Dia. 0.4000": 125 grain Frangible HP (Black Oxide)
Actual weigh 120.8 grains  Crimp Diameter 0.3915"
HP depth  HP 0.3380" / HP dia. 0.0950" / mouth 0.2200"
C.O.A.L.: 1.2470"
Primer: Brass color
Case: Diameter 0.4215" Crimp Diameter 0.4210" (tight) Length 0.9880"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight: RamShot Silhouette  11.8 grains







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Intercooler

  Where is Yondering or one of the other handloaders? I would love to see someone playing around with the Ramshot so we can compare.

sqlbullet

The load data for silhouette leaves velocity lacking about 200 fps when you hit a max load. It would be ok for mid-range loads, but not if you really want to maximize performance.

Intercooler


sqlbullet

Quote from: Intercooler on December 05 2013 09:13:48 AM MST
The two I have tested are close to the top in 10mm.

Yes, but they are well off book in terms of load data.  So, unless you have several thousand $'s worth of pressure equipment laying around, you are building loads that are potentially unsafe.

Intercooler


The_Shadow

Quote from: sqlbullet on December 06 2013 07:50:51 AM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on December 05 2013 09:13:48 AM MST
The two I have tested are close to the top in 10mm.

Yes, but they are well off book in terms of load data.  So, unless you have several thousand $'s worth of pressure equipment laying around, you are building loads that are potentially unsafe.

That's what makes the ID of the powder such a challenge, because the data is not normal ranges.  However it did fit other powder profiles like AA#5.  IC spoke with the people and was told that is what they used.  The projectile is lighter than advertised, is coated also, so that may play into the achievable results to a point.  Once I get some of these powders in my inventory to play with I will learn even more.  :-\
The "10mm" I'm Packin', Has The Bullets Wackin', Smakin' & The Slide is Rackin' & Jackin'!
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soutthpaw

Quote from: Intercooler on December 06 2013 03:48:41 PM MST
Those black rounds are cool  8)
racist bullets:o:D.   Just need some white oxide coatings to be PC...