Did Hillary just give the election away

[sqlbullet]

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/04/hillary-clinton-gun-control-forefront-campaign

I just don't know how this happens.  Polling among millennials shows pretty strong opposition to the idea that gun control has any effect on gun violence.  This crowd reads the data and knows that those tactics can't work.

I just gotta wonder how well this is going to play out for her.

[DM1906]

I have little faith in the upcoming generation(s). Some of them may have an understanding of some individual issues, but they are still Utopian-Socialists.

[gandog56]

We could hope...

.....but the sheeple elected Obozo not once, but TWICE!

[Wolfie]

Hillary is going to win, the only way to stop her is of the GOP finds a General or businessman that is honorable. And no, 3X married bankrupt Trump is not.

[JMag1]

Hillary will not win. However, unsure who will at this point.

[Patriot]

Hillary is going to win, the only way to stop her is of the GOP finds a General or businessman that is honorable. And no, 3X married bankrupt Trump is not.

You wish.

[sqlbullet]

I think Bernie will give her a hard run for the Dem nomination.  And I don't think she realizes she just gave him some more votes by going strong anti-gun. 

But, I agree with Wolfie.  I don't think that the republicans don't have anyone in the race right now that can beat her.  I wish they did. 

The Republican core (that means anyone who is reading this, thinks I am wrong, and thinks there are lots of good candidates in the Republican primary) needs to figure out fast that they can't elect a president by themselves.  They need swing voters that are attracted to the candidates.  And swing voters think the Republican pack stinks.

[JMag1]

If swing voters believe a habitual liar and an avowed socialist are more appealing than the republican field, we are truly screwed.

[sqlbullet]

If swing voters believe a habitual liar and an avowed socialist are more appealing than the republican field, we are truly screwed.

Here is the problem.

The typical swing voter is a high information voter.  They have read and accept the scientific information for evolution and global warming.  They perceive that the Citizens United case handed corporate america a license to bribe.   And they see the growing income gap as a looming issue far more important than abortion, planned parenthood or the shoulder thing that goes up.

And they look at the republican group and don't find a single person among them that can speak intelligently about any of these issues.  A group that is bought and paid for, except for one who is a reality TV star gone wild.

I don't mean to pick on your comment personally, but it illustrates perfectly the problem to which I was referring.  So many republicans can't see that these candidates just aren't going to positively motivate the voters that actually win elections.

These candidates that appeal to the republican core.  News flash....The republican core would vote republican for almost anyone on the ballet.  And, in general, that is 45% of the electorate. (Another 45% vote democrat for the same reason).

It is the 10% in between we need to woo.  If you wanna know what those voters think, you have to get off the conservative boards and read some public opinion elsewhere.  And it isn't pretty.

[JMag1]

If swing voters believe a habitual liar and an avowed socialist are more appealing than the republican field, we are truly screwed.

Here is the problem.

The typical swing voter is a high information voter.  They have read and accept the scientific information for evolution and global warming.  They perceive that the Citizens United case handed corporate america a license to bribe.   And they see the growing income gap as a looming issue far more important than abortion, planned parenthood or the shoulder thing that goes up.

And they look at the republican group and don't find a single person among them that can speak intelligently about any of these issues.  A group that is bought and paid for, except for one who is a reality TV star gone wild.

I don't mean to pick on your comment personally, but it illustrates perfectly the problem to which I was referring.  So many republicans can't see that these candidates just aren't going to positively motivate the voters that actually win elections.

These candidates that appeal to the republican core.  News flash....The republican core would vote republican for almost anyone on the ballet.  And, in general, that is 45% of the electorate. (Another 45% vote democrat for the same reason).

It is the 10% in between we need to woo.  If you wanna know what those voters think, you have to get off the conservative boards and read some public opinion elsewhere.  And it isn't pretty.

No offense, but you give the typical swing voter way too much credit for being truly informed as to issues central to our Founders' intent and consistent with the COTUS.

I consider most independents to be low information, riders of the wave types. No offense to those who are self-described independents.

[Wolfie]

Most voters vote for those that are most like them.

Hillary is a women and no way blacks, hispanics and asians go GOP.

As Senator Graham said, the GOP is not generating enough angry white guys.

PS: Its not even going to be close.

[Patriot]

Most voters vote for those that are most like them.

Hillary is a women and no way blacks, hispanics and asians go GOP.

As Senator Graham said, the GOP is not generating enough angry white guys.

PS: Its not even going to be close.

You might be right. But I'm not worried. A Democrat president will be a lame duck, just like Obama is. The house of reps or Senate won't turn blue for at least the next 8-10 years.

[Wolfie]

Patriot, you and your boys need to wake up. The GOP wants a Democrat POTUS, this way they can control everything else.

They fool your kind while they game the system to make serious coin at the local, county and state level and the national level its a push.

Its about the $$$$ wake up.

[Patriot]

Patriot, you and your boys need to wake up. The GOP wants a Democrat POTUS, this way they can control everything else.

They fool your kind while they game the system to make serious coin at the local, county and state level and the national level its a push.

Its about the $$$$ wake up.

Oh I'm awake. The only candidates talking about gun control have a (D) after their name.

That's all I need to know.

[Wolfie]

I don't see background checks from person to person being gun control. I also do not see anyone coming for our guns and if that happened I would be on your side.