10mm gel tests

Started by Raggedyman, November 08 2012 09:34:21 AM MST

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REDLINE

Right.  It wasn't so much that I was trying to point out specific platforms as much as pointing toward higher velocities in general toward getting those PPU serbian bullets to expand.  Like at least the 1300fps 4949shooter mentioned.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Intercooler

I have seen videos of them fired into water with the same results. Just not expanders it seems.

REDLINE

Just seems weird.  I'ld think even if it wasn't pretty, that they'ld at least do something besides shed jackets.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Intercooler

  I agree. Maybe they use Superman lead  :o







4949shooter

They might expand in 3 feet of bear meat.  :P

REDLINE

Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Raggedyman

They'd probably expand if they were anywhere near 10mm velocity. 880 fps is slower than a 180 gr .40 S&W ought to be moving. 1100-1200 fps would likely have much different results. I can't figure why they would load that stuff so weak when their .223 ammo is pretty hot and also made with a well constructed bullet of decent accuracy.

Intercooler

Any plans for more tests?

Raggedyman

Yeah, I finally got my new batch of gelatin to calibrate correctly. Right now both batches are in the large tubs so for the next test (hopefully Friday) I'm going to do the buckshot wax slug, .22lr, and a retest of the drywall and .223. After that, I plan to pour all the gelatin into the smaller "pistol" molds and knock out a bunch of the stuff you sent.

I might bring along one or two of the lighter 10mm just in case there is enough undamaged gelatin left after the other tests but I don't anticipate getting a chance to do more 10mm until after I remelt the blocks.

pacapcop

Might as well be a fmj.It's like they drilled a hold in a fmj.

Intercooler

    I proposed a test to Chopinbloc where I send him more PPU so he can work the bullets into a real 10mm load. Think that would change things?

Intercooler


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I also posted tests of 9mm 115 gr Hi-Shok and .22lr Aguila 40 gr Interceptor to my channel. In addition to that, I tested the PPU 180 gr JHP bullets over a hand load as well as hand loaded 155 gr TAC-XP. I wasn't able to get good pics of the wound channels so I decided not to post the video but here are the numbers and a couple pics:


I pulled the PPU 180 gr and loaded them right back into their own primed cases over 11.2 gr of AA#7, which generated 1,194 fps. It expanded to 0.668", max, and 0.617" min. Retained weight was 172.5 gr. Unfortunately, it curved down a bit and rode along the table, coming to rest at about 18 3/4". I don't believe this to be the real penetration depth, though.

I also shot a 155 gr TAC-XP loaded over 8.2 gr of 800-X. That generated 1,192 fps and penetrated 14.2". Retained weight was 154.8 gr. Max expansion was 0.759" and min was 0.481". I couldn't get any good pictures of the wound track so I decided not to post a video but I consider the numbers to be accurate.



RMM

#149
Thanks for the tests!  Looks like the PPU can expand after all... just needs a bit more ooooomph! :)

I'm impressed with the HSTs.  My father just bought a chronograph so I should be able to work up some HST loads this summer and actualy know what kind of velocity I'm getting. 
Richard - G20SF